So I switched on my computer and logged into skype after I had just gotten home from a life drawing class. To my surprise, I was bombarded with 400 lines of unread skype messages in a chat room which had myself, Ice, Dirty, Gary and Stephen Heller. They were discussing the indoctrination theory and whether it’s real, whether it’s the intended message that Bioware wanted to tell us, whether it’s a good ending or not, etc. It was too interesting and heated of a discussion for text alone to sustain so Dirty insisted that we had a skype chat and that I record it, making the recording into a Spoilercast part 2!
So this is what you have here. Come join us as we dive deeper into Mass Effect 3 and mainly discuss the ending in alot more depth that was present in the first part of the spoilercast.
If you haven’t heard part one yet, I highly reccomend listening to it. I also suggest that you watch the Indoctrination video below before listening to this new episode because we refer to it quite a lot throughout the podcast.
Also, this was recorded last week which was before any of the recent official statements that Bioware had released stating that they would be “giving us content to flesh out the ending” after considering the backlash that internet had given the final 30 minutes of Mass Effect 3.
Enjoy!
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I don’t post much on here but just wanted to say this is my favorite podcast! Keep up the good work!
Thank you! We will
god that end track is so epic!
The guy (ice) at the beginning ignores that indoctrination uses infrared and ultrasound as we as EM Fields. Ice also ignores Object rho also. In the theory Shepards indoctrination is slow. We only start too see the effects In Masseffect 3. The thing about shep which is hinted Via the illusive man. Project Lazarus may use reaper tech to make it work. Bioware can have three be shepards last game through DLC If it’s Dlc attached to 3. Next game may actually finish the reapers. Bioware said 3 would end Shepards story not the ME story. Indoctrination Makes the game brilliant IMHO. Taking the ME3 at face value is fail…IMO. Great Show.
i agree, i think indoctrination makes the game ending perfect. the fact that everyone who chose control or synthetic were actually indoctrinated is an amazing feat for a video game. i’m really surprised how many people didn’t kill the reapers in the end. thanks for listening to the show!
If the indoctrination thing is true, then the Reapers fooled me because I chose synthesis. It’s a cool theory but the only problem I have is that let us clearly know that the Reapers got into Shepards head and give us some closure. We shouldn’t have to analyze everything and watch youtube to completely understand what happened, in the final game of a trilogy. It’s BS if their plan all along was to give us a proper ending through dlc. Is this the world we live in now where we get 95% of the game on the disc, and the other 5% as paid dlc? It’s a sad state of gaming if this happens, and it’s probably a result of working under EA.
Having the first two games based on the face value themes that could be appreciated without having to read a codex and then having the last 30 minutes of the 3rd game become a mystical space magic fest is what makes this whole thing annoying for me. A person who writes 2 novels largely about family and friendship and then the last 15 pages of the 3rd novel dives into religion and the afterlife, would be equally as silly. As I said on the show though, I don’t ‘not’ believe in the Indoctrination Theory. Most of it makes 100% sense and is indeed interesting. But how many of us would had even caught onto it if it hadn’t been for people who went out of their way to dig up all this information and make videos like the one I posted in the show post? I understand that the point of it is to sneak up on you and for you to not really notice but if my first instinct after seeing the ending is to run to the internet for answers instead finding answers within the game, then those are the warning flags of a badly written plot. If it ends up being true, then it ends up being true, but it won’t rewrite the disappointment that lots of people had from not understanding the ending. If they wanted to make us ponder over things like indoctrination and ask ourselves these deep questions regarding the ending, they should have either made it slightly clearer within the game itself. or, they should have inserted more signs and elements of indoctrination in ME1 and 2 so that it wouldn’t have felt as “out of nowhere” as it does in ME3. To me, it just feels like Bioware stumbled over on a hiccup somewhere in development and fell on top of an ending that just happened to accidentally line up with some things from the previous games that people had either forgotten or were not deep/important enough for players to feel like they were supposed to pay attention to.
Quick question for you guys for the next show. What’s the best community you’ve ever encountered in an online game?
Under normal circumstances an ending that was just a dream/hallucination would piss people off but in this case it would be welcomed. I find it sad that people (myself included) are WISHING that the end of ME3 was just a dream. If people want an ending to be fake then you know something is seriously wrong with it.