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March 9, 2010 at 1:51 am

Hiphopgamer Talks About Bias In Video Game Journalism

Letter from the Editor:

The opinions expressed in this video are the sole opinions of Hiphopgamer and not members of The Bitbag.

The review scores are in and God Of War 3 has performed incredible but there’s one problem, not everyone acknowledges the level of work Sony Santa Monica has put in to move this industry forward.

IGN and Gamespot respectively are the top 2 websites in our industry and some of the statements that were made in their reviews of God Of War 3 were flat out wrong and in a way bias.

The main issue with this is the fans who look to them to get all the details while Reviewers such as Chris Roper and Tom Mc Shea wouldn’t know greatness if someone literally slapped them in the face with a peace of it.

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144 Comments

  1. Oh I wonder what the score will be Sunday… Hmmmm **sarcasm** lol I think you are being bias HHG. You are one of the biggest GOW fans ever, so what GOW is doing effects you more than the average gaming fan. You are being bias for calling out reviewers for not giving GOW3 the score you want them to give. IGN rarely gives out perfect scores. They’ve given out to under 10 games in the last 12 years I believe. Also, Chris Roper gave GOW3 a 9.5 for Graphics which I think you are confusing for Presentation. He says the game is, at points, the most beautiful game ever. Presentation has to deal with story, pacing of the game, and content. Dont even mention Mass Effect 2 and say that it is without a doubt not as good as GOW. I would disagree with you till the end of the time. It’s all personal preference Just remember that every review has some form of bias. Some is bad, and some is good. Like this Sunday when you give GOW3 a 1,000,000 out of 10 we can say you are too biased in favor of GOW3. A 9.3 is a great score. We should just enjoy the game and not call people stupid EDIT: Oh yeah, you say that you only review that game and dont compare them to others. Yet in this video you say GOW3 smashes Mass Effect 2 and MGS4… GTFO… lol, never in a million years can you say GOW3 is better than MGS4 and Mass Effect 2 without a doubt. All three are great. None smash the other.

    • This is an endless debate. I think it’s pointless to compare reviews of different game. In this case God of War 3 can’t be compared to Mass Effect 2, simply because their completely different genres, and the were reviewed by two different people. However, I agree with hiphop. So far, to me God of War 3 is to it’s genre what Mass Effect 2 and Uncharted 2 are for their genres. But again that’s my opinion. IGN’s review is about, with my time with the game, but I can’t see why the game got a 8.5/10 for presentation either. There’s no way it should have gotten anything below a 9.0. In my book it’s a 9.5 or 10 (camera can cause platforming problems). The story isn’t as set as it was in previous God of Wars, and that’s simply because this is the end. The entire story is about Kratos killing the Gods, until around the 4-5 hour mark. As far as Lasting Appeal goes, God of War should have got a 9. The campaign is the average length for the genre, but offers Challenge rooms, and the arena battles to give the game even more longevity. But again this is his opinion. There are plenty of other sites that gave the game perfect scores, but in the end all the scores average out to be 94/100 on metacritic which is about what I expected it to be (no more than a 95). I get what you’re saying hiphop, games that achieve technical and overall greatness need to be treated as such, and the review scores should reflect their achievements, but in the end not everyone is going to be the biggest fan of the hack and slash genre, or the shooter genre, or the RPG genre.

    • When I get home, I will purposely put on a hat, and tip to you.

  2. Daxter241 says:

    So let me get this straight….. this vidicle is about not everyone sucking Sony Santa Monica’s dick for not praising GOW3 enough…..ah ok. just because you think a game deserves to be a 10 does not mean it is entitled to that score (*thinks back to the GI Joe review*). i really didn’t think you would stoop down to this level of fanboyism (complaining over a game not getting a high enough score) but i guess when it comes to GOW3 all bets are off. (i can’t believe im sitting here listening to a grown ass man cry for 15 minutes about why a game deserves a handful of extra percentage points…i mean, wtf? was this vidicle serious?) like i said on GT, 9.2′s and 9.3′s are an A in my book and i would be willing to bet that if GOW3 had been given a 9.7, the same idiots that are crying now would be saying it deserved an even higher score. oh yeah, how is it not biased journalism when your asserting that a game you favor deserves a higher score? your opinion will be plastered all of the review/vidicle and obviously if the game holds a special place in your heart you are going to say a few things that you wouldn’t normally say in other games you may happen to review….thus making you biased. THE ENTIRE VIDEO was a perfect example of BIASED JOURNALISM so as for the title, I’m sorry but is a joke in itself….. HHG, in all seriousness i respect your opinion and i respect some of what you have to say but when you do vidicles like this it only brings down your credibility in the group of people who aren’t already in the church of sony or in the HHG fanclub. while your fans may alway respect and acknowledge what you have to say, many of us on the outside are looking at things like this and laughing due to how silly it is. I don’t want to be throwing out hate just to be throwing it out but….it just doesn’t make since to be making any more noise over a game that has already been established as a game for the ages…. one more thing….a 10 represents a prefect game right? out of all the variables that are going on in the game your going to sit here and tell me that it all comes together perfectly with no glitches, slow down’s or performance issues? unless your working on the game yourself i dont think you could even say that without it being nothing more than an opinionated statement just for hyping up a game. IMHO, no game deserves a 10 because no game is fucking perfect…..

  3. Tochi-1282 says:

    Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGM2b-dMIDs

  4. UsCoMmAnDeR says:

    I could care less about what the reviewers score the game but the one thing that gets me is they rated that faggy girl game (Bayonetta) higher. I rented Bayonetta and after playing for about 10mins I sent it right back to gamefly. I dont know why people even said its a good game. On top of that they have some of the most odd and bizarre music ever. Ign also gave FF13 and 8.9 so their reviews are nothing more than who can cut the biggest checks to get that 100.

  5. lol. hiphop should have done this after he finished the game. :P diversity is more related to the levels not the weapons/gameplay. hiphop is a really huge gow fan, i think even more than me.lol oh hiphop, so much of what you said was disjointed. criticisms of the story has nothing to do with things like the first encounter between zeus and kratos. i wholeheartedly agree with your objections to ff13 getting the same score on ps3 and 360, totally unfair, look at bayonetta…

  6. Tochi-1282 says:

    I forgot to add part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TpgBLhEeTg.

    • both those endings were lame.lol kratos would so kick ryu’s ass. kratos would probably tear ryu’s arms off and beat him to death with the wet ends.lol

  7. Tochi-1282 says:

    Lol, I agree with you jmd. I Didn’t like the ending so much but both videos were cool.

  8. Daxter241 says:

    wait wait wait…..im sorry but i had to double post out of hilarity “aint no way in this world you can not like somethin about this game, the game is too good for you to not like somethin about it” fucking hilarious……that one quote from yourself not only destroys your entire title of the video but makes watching the video in order to get any understanding why “god of war 3 deserves a 10″ and it is “not bias journalism” worthless. if thats not a biased statement from a journalist….then i don’t know what is. http://sturmdesjahrhunderts.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/facepalm.jpg

  9. UCantSeeMe187 says:

    Me personally I wasn’t expecting any 10 out of 10 reviews for GoW. There is a clear bias with most the reviewers of the bigger companies (IGN,1up,Gamespot,etc) and anybody who listens to their podcast and visits their site regularly will know what I’m talking bout. This is why I really don’t hold too much weight too these reviews they put out. Like they said on the Warzone this week, reviews are only a reference and someone else’s opinion. Also Hip Hop made a valid point with the FF13 and MLB2k review comparisons.

  10. lol personally for me i already know this game is gona be a 9.9 out of 10 for me when i get it because its one of my favorite series and no game is perfect. but like he said about biased, everyone is somewhat biased. personally for me like he was saying fair is fair at the end there, i always thought it was stupid that everyone beat the shit out of socom confrontation for having glitchy laggy online and everyone gave gear of war2 a free pass when it was just as bad. gear of war2 took forever to find a game, when you go one it was laggy as shit and everyone was glitching. now i know it had offline but still it should of taken a hit as a whole. point and case ign review. gears of war2 9.5 socom confrontation 4.5

    • UsCoMmAnDeR says:

      Gears of War 2 should not have been a 9.5. The reason why it scored drastically higher than socom was because gears had a single player. So as you already yes they did give gears a free pass because its a marketable franchise.

  11. leejohnson222 says:

    some times hhg goes over the top and i dont listen to the warzone now bcause i find it bias towards 360, but i think this is spot on here, ive read reviews where ign will focus on a game being short on the ps3 and mark it down, then just mentioned that crackdown was short and said but this doesnt deter from the game !! does anyone remember the 2 seperate reviews for bayonetta ? ps3 version was worse, but after the patch it ran very smooth, why not 2 reviews for final fantasy i have played both versions and there is a difference in these 2 multi plat games, but of course these bias sites wont mention it. Its fine to mention it for the ps3 when they have a worse port or version, but why not the 360? i watched the god3 reviews and i have to say at some points the reviewer seemed to be looking for problems with the game, ive got a promo copy of god of war 3, im about 6 hours in and the game looks like noting ive ever seen on consoles or pc, simply from lighting, camera angles and set peices, its remarkable, i think sometimes people who prefer a certain console dont leave that mind set alone when reviewing an exclussive on a different format. I dont pay attention to reviews as peoples opinions are other peoples opinions, imagine if you didnt watch films or eat food based on someone elses opinion preference. I do think HHG is on the money here, alot of big sites i feel are very bias towards xbox, maybe its a country loyalty thing with the USA sites i dont know, but a hong kong website gave ff13 a 6/10 on the 360 and the ps3 was a higer review, you could say this is bias, but at least the review explains the differencies, IGN and gamespot dont.

  12. mboojigga says:

    You seriously made a vid about others being bias? Seriously YOU made a vid about others being BIAS? Do you even understand the meaning of bias because this video represents the pinnacle of bias and you don’t even realize it.

    • UsCoMmAnDeR says:

      Did you listen to this weeks warzone. Listen to what HHG says to the man who says it was smart of him to get rid of his 360. I think during the warzone both hhg and torrence each take a side to make it more interesting.

  13. Zack Warren says:

    It’s just video games…Jesus Christ

  14. cheeseburgerman21 says:

    The biggest PS3 fanboy on the internet calling other sites bias. Good job dude. If anyone is biased isnt it the dude who has been hypeing up the game for like two years and was given a free trip to sony santa monica? Not everyone will think a game is worth 10. Doesnt mather if its GOW3, Final fantasy 7, Zelda OOT or fucking Dudebro, My Shit is Fucked Up So I Got to Shoot/Slice You II: It’s Straight-Up Dawg Time. Grow up.

  15. bishop375 says:

    A couple of complaints. 1. You can’t *be* bias. You can be biased. You can have bias. But you can’t be bias. 2. These are game reviews. Reviews are typically subjective, at least to a degree. 3. These are game reviews, not a history of Sony Santa Monica. Reviewing a sequel to a highly popular game does not necessarily require a treatise on the history of a gaming studio branch.

  16. Man_Of_The_Year says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU I saw this “vidicle” on N4G and I just had to say something… HHG you Hypocritical bias stain on gaming journalism. Anything over a 9 is GREAT. Especially for a linear 9 hour game (7 hours if you play on easy so you should be able to finish it quickly HHG) with no alternate endings. Yet you want to call bias on site like IGN and Gamespot. Last I checked HHG, you were the BIGGEST Sony Fanboy on the internet and the BIGGEST God Of War fanboy. You don’t think that your constant HYPE is a clear indication of your biasness towards the game? So lets take a look at some of these “bias” reviews shall we. IGN – 9.3 (accused of being biased) Gamespot – 9 (accused of being biased) Now what about sites like: Playstation Official Magazine UK – 9 PSX Extreme – 9.8 Playstation Universe – 9.5 TheSixthAxis – 9 What about these HEAVILY PRO SONY sites? Are they Biased against God Of War 3 as well? I wouldn’t be surprised if at some point you yourself has visited those sites before…so they are just as big as IGN and Gamespot where Sony Fanboys go to get their Pro Sony News. Bottom line is, you are Ass hurt that you HYPED up a game with 9 hours of linear gameplay, no co op, and no multuiplayer and now you have EGG on your face because you look like a fool. MGS 4 had multiplayer, and Mass Effect 2 had alternate endings with consequences to your actions. These 2 games have been reviewed by the industry as better games and rightfully so. They have more to offer the gamer and allow for multiple experiences with re playability. Your Views and Journalism are almost as pathetic has you being a Sony Fanboy. HypocrisyGamer doing what he does best… absolutely nothing.

    • trolls cant stop posting, i knew you’d be back.

      • Man_Of_The_Year says:

        How was my comment a Troll? I gave praise to GoW3, I give praise to MGS4, and i give praise to Mass effect 2…so what am I trolling? I used FACTS combined with reason to prove a point. it’s uneducated trash like yourself that makes this site unbearable, and it’s Torrence’s fault that allows HHG BS vidicles to be posted on this site that attracts the ignorance from people like you, CHOZINWON and USCOMMANDER to this site.

        • stupid fanboys like yourself is what makes the internet unbearable. u give praise to GoW just as good as u trash it, plz ur so full of yourself little troll. talking about hypocrisy when u clearly represent it at its finest.stick to your words and never come back! lol.

          • Man_Of_The_Year says:

            Your pathetic ramblings just give credit to my comments as well as you have no idea the definition of being a “troll” or exhibiting the act of “trolling” which is evident from your comments above and the inability to answer my question “how was I trolling”. But thanks for your absolute useless contribution to the points I pointed out. If IGN and Gamespot are bias…then does that mean The 4 Pro Sony sites are also bias as they didn’t give perfect 10′s…and in a couple cases, gave lower scores than IGN.

          • “If IGN and Gamespot are bias…then does that mean The 4 Pro Sony sites are also bias as they didn’t give perfect 10’s…and in a couple cases, gave lower scores than IGN.” never did i said i agree with HHG or disagree with you dont put words in my post. ” which is evident from your comments above and the inability to answer my question “how was I trolling”. not my fault that ur fail to see something so clear.u talk like a fanboy yet u want everybody to believe you arent. im gonna stick to MY words and not feed trolls.

          • Man_Of_The_Year says:

            So let me get this straight. You are agreeing with me that HHG is wrong, and with the facts I provided which help me prove my point…Yet you responded with: “trolls cant stop posting, i knew you’d be back.” And then you say: “not my fault that ur fail to see something so clear.u talk like a fanboy yet u want everybody to believe you arent. im gonna stick to MY words and not feed trolls.” Where in my post was I talking like a Fanboy? I said that anything over a 9 is GREAT and GoW3 is over a 9. FACT: GoW IS a around a 9 hour game, with NO CO OP, and NO Muliplayer…and the game is so good that it is currently a 94 on Metacritic which is awesome. I also Think that MGS4 is a good game, I wish there was actual more game than movie, but it’s still worth every great review score it got. And Mass Effect 2is also a great game that deserves every great score it got. So…I am giving praise to Sony games, and I am giving praise to MS’s games…Please enlighten me as to Which console I am showing my favoritism towards? And you say that I fail to see? Come on…you’re just being confrontational with me with no real reason other than to be confrontational. If you are not going to disagree with what i pointed out…then why even click the reply button? You not only wasted my time, but you wasted your own with this drivel.

        • UsCoMmAnDeR says:

          Keep my name out of your mouth you little punk.

    • MrMondaynight says:

      Screw the haters,Welcome back MAN OF THE YEAR, this place needs you more and more.

  17. Torrence Davis says:

    I think everything that I wanted to say was said in the comments section. By creating this vidicle YOU are creating bias journalism. You are doing the very thing you are lashing out against. No one gives a fuck about what IGN or Gamespot gives for a review score except fanboys. Fanboys bitch about scores, journalists and true gamers don’t. Scores are for the publishers and developers and also for gamers to gauge whether or not they should spend their money. Stop this mess please because it’s not helping you or Sony or Kratos. If you want to be taken seriously, you can’t post shit like this. I know you won’t take my advice because you never do but I’ll keep on giving it to you.

    • you better give it 5 stars in ur review tor, or else… let’s just say, it’ll be a very interesting 81st warzone.lol

    • “Fanboys bitch about scores, journalists and true gamers don’t.” Fanboys also bitch about fanboys from the other side and true gamers don’t. We’ve been through this before but you look just as bad as HHG sometimes. You also won’t take anyone’s advice but we’ll keep giving it to you.

      • Torrence Davis says:

        Yeah, and what advice do you have to give oh chosen one? Now if you bitch about fanboys, you are a fanboy. That’s hilarious. Fanboys are a cancer, I hate them and it’s why I bitch about them. So what am I a fanboy of if I bitch about fanboys? PLEASE!

        • My advice to you is play your Xbox if you prefer it and don’t worry about what the PS3 fanboys are doing or saying. And don’t play stupid with me, we all know you only hate PS3 fanboys. If you ONLY bitch about PS3 fanboys then what they say affects you in some way and you are obviously leaning towards being a fanboy of the other side. Again, don’t play stupid, you’ve stated many times before that PS3 fanboys are the worst and you’ll even write articles addressing it. HHG looks really stupid right now for defending GOW III from other people’s opinions and there is a lot wrong with what he just did but you look just as bad at times.

          • Torrence Davis says:

            Play my Xbox? What about my PS3, Wii, Sega Saturn, PSP, DS, PC, PS2 and iPhone? Yes, I’ve openly admitted that I hate PS3 fanboys more, but I didn’t write an article about it. If I did, please find it. Again, answer my question. What am I a fanboy of for hating PS3 fanboys more? what is this other side you talk about?

          • CHOZINWON and torrence have entered the ring. ding, ding, ding… lol *jmd749 has been appointed referee* here’s what he had to say “chozinwon is now in the lead, and tor doesn’t seem to have a leg to stand on. this week’s been tough on the old timer, first lordvon now…” :)

          • Man_Of_The_Year says:

            @CHOZINWON “How can you hate one more than the other?” Sorry I have to step in here. Are you saying that HHG’s articles and vidicles are on par with the articles that Torrence Davis writes? Do you not READ or WATCH HHG’s vidicles? Do you not understand the point behind this whole debate that is going on in this forum? HHG is a SOLID PRO SONY FANBOY. And like a Sony Fanboy, he is acting out on his feelings and posting vidicles about calling out the bias of sites that rated a Sony Exclusive 9 and 9.3 out of 10 saying that they should have been 10′s while completely ignoring the FACT that he too is showing bias. Sony fanboys ARE worse than MS fanboys. Torrence covered this in his first Rantausouras. Sony Fanboys have a different mentality than MS fanboys. Examples of these have been seen time and time again through petitions, vidicles, not researching, proclaiming opinions as facts….and so much more. How are you so blind that you can’t see the mental difference’s between the 2 types of fanboys? Unless….possibly you are a Sony Fanboy and thus are blind and only see what the MS fanboys do.

          • CHOZINWON says:

            @Man_of_the_year Torrence is nowhere near as bad as HHG, of course. Again, a fanboy is a fanboy. They’re both stupid. One side talks best graphics and the other talks sales. The only way for you to view one worse than the other is to be a fanboy of the opposite side of which you think is the worst. For you to get this worked up about HHG being a PS3 fanboy is proof positive of your fanboyism of the other side. I think HHG is a PS3 fanboy and Torrence is an Xbox fanboy but I don’t have a problem with either nor do I hate either of them.

          • Man_Of_The_Year says:

            @CHOZINWON “Torrence is nowhere near as bad as HHG” yet you said “We’ve been through this before but you look just as bad as HHG sometimes.” therefor you are contradicting yourself. You also said “One side talks best graphics and the other talks sales.”. While I know time and time again HHG beats his chest about graphics…I have yet to hear Torrence beat his chest about sales…actually on his videos…he says fuck sales…So i don’t see how Torrence can be considered a fanboy using your Graphics Vs. Sales comparison. “The only way for you to view one worse than the other is to be a fanboy of the opposite side of which you think is the worst.” This is not true. You can be unbiased yet see how people act around you and what the actions are that they do and compare them to others. You don’t need to be on one side of the fence to see what the other side is doing. You can be ON the fence to see both and base the actions done by either side and determine which is worse. I have said time and time again I do not HATE HipHopGamer even though he has gotten personal with me. I attack his Journalism. I have never stated anything at anytime what I think of him as a person outside of the internet but it’s his “career” that I challenge his views on. HHG represents himself through his Journalism and that is the subject to my intolerance to him. As per this vidicle about bias within the media yet he himself is clearly bias.

    • Man_Of_The_Year says:

      ” Fanboys bitch about scores, journalists and true gamers don’t. Scores are for the publishers and developers and also for gamers to gauge whether or not they should spend their money.” Quote Torrence Davis. Torrence…are you calling HipHopGamer a Fanboy? IF so then your Quote: “Fanboys are a cancer, I hate them and it’s why I bitch about them.” Are you saying you Hate hipHopgamer? Just Curious. And if this vidicle doesn’t yell “SONY FANBOY” than I don’t know what does.

      • Man_Of_The_Year says: March 1, 2010 at 4:23 pm @ TheBitBag “This is my final post. Torrence I came to this site because I thought you were the voice of reason. I liked your mission statement of trying to educate the gaming industry from constant BS spread throughout the internet. Yet here you are again time and time saying that you are trying to get HHG to change his titles but you post his BS articles anyways. You’re a good guy Torrence and I know you work hard, but until you clean up the about of BS submitted by HHG, I will not be coming back. Aside of the bitbaggers in the warzone, you just have too many high school kids talking out their asses. Thanks for the good times.” Back so soon? HHG is doing exactly what he set out to do, keep people coming back for more.

        • Man_Of_The_Year says:

          “Man_Of_The_Year says: March 9, 2010 at 9:42 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU I saw this “vidicle” on N4G and I just had to say something…” I understand that I get a lot of hate on this site from Hiphopgamers mindless myopic Sony Loyalist followers just by using Facts mixed with common knowledge with a pinch of sources to back up opinions….but sometimes things just need to be pointed out. Like HHG’s pathetic Pro Sony hypocrisy bias rant here that was posted on N4G. And I came back to TheBitbag which only provides HITS for Torrence and not HipHopGamer. So HHG is failing to do what he is set out to do…provide hits for his site. Had this video ONLY been on his site…then he would be doing something right as I would be hitting his site to make comments…..and your comment would be Valid…assuming that i would actually hit his site and not just provide my opinion directly on N4G where the video can be watched.

      • Torrence Davis says:

        I don’t hate HHG. I’m trying to get him to up his game. He cannot up his game swimming in fanboy drivel. This article is fanboy bullshit. Who the fuck cares if someone gave GOW3 less than a 10? Who cares if it got a 9.5 instead of a 10? Fanboys! Go to N4g and read some of the conspiracy theories these guys are drumming up. Someone said Bayonetta and Dantes ripped of GOW and I said if you call those games out, you have to call out GOW for ripping of Rygar. Then they tried to rationalize that because GOW1 was a better game than Rygar, which is a shit game, it doesn’t count…and then they called me a moron! It’s delusional-ism like this that ruins gaming. Wanting me to say that I hate HHG is idiotic. If I hated him, I wouldn’t associate him. All I want him to do is fix his titling and take some advice from me once in awhile. This vidicle is just stupid.

        • Man_Of_The_Year says:

          I have read your comments on N4G….***cough cough The Maxx cough cough*** “He cannot up his game swimming in fanboy drivel. This article is fanboy bullshit.” You admit that he is a fanboy…yet you say you hate fanboys…thus the only explanation as to why you like HHG is because you don’t really hate fanboys. How can you hate fanboys yet like HHG when you have said so many times he is displaying fanboyism in this thread alone?

        • pixelsword says:

          To be honest, GoW DID rip-off Rygar… like, hard. Most games have another game that they copied to be fair, though; I call it a “source game”. Every FPS can be boiled down to Wolfenstein, Every space shooter to Spacewar (even Space Invaders) and so on until a game is different enough to branch off on it’s own. Time Crisis breaks into Winback, Winback into Kill.switch, and Kill.switch into Killzone 2 (preconceived genres notwithstanding). Anything similar to these source games are grouped under them. Abefore the source games, they tend to emulate reality in one form or another.

      • MrMondaynight says:

        Man don’t try to get torrence to admit HHG is a fanboy because when it comes to THAT he gets NAIVE. Just be glad he addressed HHG Bias article like a man.

        • Man_Of_The_Year says:

          Ya I know. I am just fucking with him. I am using his comments against him and backing him into a corner. I know he will never admit that HHG is a PRO SONY fanboy and I know that he will never say he hates HHG. But I like using his history of comments against him…I think he knows it too. Which is why he rarely answers back…It’s all in good fun. I think he knows it.

    • MrMondaynight says:

      YES! Thank you Torrence for addressing the SONY FANBOY that is HHG! Hopefully he will read this and think about it! I also love that you put that disclaimer,now people that come here WON’T think the whole bitbag staff are shitheads! The bigbag does not need this kind a BULLSHIT Journalism! I want to see the Bitbag move FORWARD and not backwards! I gave Hiphipgamer his props for his last show but now he has reverted and the hope is gone for him to become reformed. HIPHOPGAMER GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND STIMULATE YOUR MIND,INCREASE YOUR VOCAB, AND STOP BEING SUCH A FANBOY YOUR EMBARRASSING YOURSELF!!

  18. leejohnson222 says:

    i guess you could say HHG is bias that an interesting view, since he clearly prefers the ps3, but some of his points were interesting, i see one site give mass effect a 10 but knock down GOW3 as it doesnt have multiplayer ayy ?? both games have no multiplayer. The thing is if anyone watches hhg shows regularly he pretty much goes crazy over all games, xbox or p3, even he loved dark void, errr in my view this was horrible. I think maybe it is hard to call out a review when its someones view, is there really an argument, but i think there is alot of bias on the larger games sites to be honest. i see a flaw being talked to death on a ps3 game, almost basing the whole review on this flaw, then just one sentence on the same flaw on a 360 game, all done by the same site and same reviewer ? did the reviewer suddenly not mind this flaw because it was on the xbox 360 ?

  19. hhg is right, and i thought man of the year wasnt coming to this site anymore. smh, gtfoh man of the year, i knew you would post again. cant stay away from hiphop gamers vidicles huh? lol!!!

    • Man_Of_The_Year says:

      Sometimes the end justifies the means…as in this case, HHG’s ignorant Hypocrisy needed to be pointed out along with his delusional followers like yourself who find facts and sources are unwelcome to this site. I won’t be here often because there is only so much of HHG’s ignorant mindless followers I can handle.

  20. A review is one man’s OPINION. That OPINION is not right or wrong and it’s not up for debate. Why do people take one man’s OPINION(review) so seriously?

    • Now that…. is all that needs to be said.

    • Daxter241 says:

      i dont know….ask HHG who called out other people for stating their own opinions in the reviews they had to put up on their sites. “Why do people take one man’s OPINION(review) so seriously?” another great question to ask HHG. if he didn’t care so much about how other people reviewed the game this shiticle probably would have never of been made

  21. you gave gow3 game of the year before e3 last year and you want true gamers to take your opinions seriously? it is known that gow is your favorite game so of course you’ll feel it deserves a ten across the board. as far as ff13 goes , the ps3 might have the better LOOKING game, but its not the better game. you’ll have the same ending on both. same cutscenes,same quest, same everything. only difference is one is 720p and the other is 576p

  22. What he’s trying to say is that the scores are UNREASONABLE. They seem to have a whole new rubric of grading when it comes to GOWIII. We can all infer, from the reviews currently out, that this game is on another level and when compared to other games the score just doesn’t add up. Big game sites have lots of factors to consider when rating a game outside of the game itself. This is why you see ratings like this. In the end there will be only chaos. In my opinion, referencing the reviews on metacritic and other game site verdicts, it deserves an overall 97. 0.5 extra point added for the hype generated in the game industry and another 0.5 for setting a new standard but the game itself seems like a 96.

  23. UsCoMmAnDeR says:

    Game reviews are just as bad as movie reviews imo. The main reason why is because every reviewer bases their reviews off of different metrics. Until games find a unified system of scoring we will continue to see scores that are meaningless. I think they need to put a bigger emphasis on these features in each genre. RPG- STORY MATTERS MOST ACTION/ADVENTURE- FUN MATTERS MOST SHOOTER- POSTION OF CAMERA AND GOOD ONLINE IMO more games should be getting higher reviews because sales are GREATLY influenced by high rated games. Someone prove me wrong and show me a game rated lower than and 8 that went on to sell a shit ton.

    • Torrence Davis says:

      http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/aliensvspredator Sold over a million http://www.edge-online.com/magazine/review-final-fantasy-xiii?page=0%2C1 Sold over 2 million in Japan alone.

      • in the case of FF13 in japan, if famitsu gave it 5/10, i strongly suspect that the sales would have been significantly affected, the japanese release was alot earlier than the west and it was received much better over there, especially critically. and avp selling that much on the 360 is no surprise, any average and above-average shooter sells like hot cakes on that system.

      • UsCoMmAnDeR says:

        I am actually shocked by how much AVP sold. I think it sold that good because Ive saw alot of commercials and the the avp movies have a large following. As for FFXIII It is currently sitting at an 82 on metacritic. So I am not sure why you chose that game. PS Dont ever link edge reviews. They are some of the worst reviewers on the planet.

  24. SixAmpFuze says:

    I don’t understand how these sites were being biased. They played the game and wrote a review”their opinions” on the game.In my opinion I dd t read anything in igns gow3 review wthat seemed biased. Ooohhh halo got. 9.5 now I see the biased review. :) futterwacking

  25. “WahWahWah GOW3 did not get a 10″, grow the fuck up HHG and accept other people have different opinions to you. I am a huge GOW fan, not because of the reviews it gets but because of the games themselves. I find it hard to understand how you think your reviews are more reliable than IGN when you score on a scale of 9 to 10. 9 out of 10 for xbox and multiplat games and 10 out of 10 for ps3 exlusives. The reasons for these scores are not becuase it is your opinion but instead to show off to the developers and publishers so they can fly you out to events and get free games, was it not hydro or Bakerboy who wrote in the comments of your 1vs1 that you were sending your reviews to the publishers, your full of shit HHG! Also glad to see Man of the year is back in the comments, things were getting dull in the commments without him.

    • Torrence Davis says:

      You’re supposed to send the reviews to publishers when they are posted. That’s what they want. I don’t think he gives all those exclusives high scores to get flown out. If that were the case, I would have been flown out a long time ago. Actually, back in the days of vgt.com we’d get flown out just to look at new games. They used to spend HUGE money on those junkets, but that’s another story.

      • Your correct Torrence, they do want you to send them reviews, but HHG has probably never ever sent a bad review. Its clear that HHG is reviewing the games to reflect well on the publisher, and not to inform in an unbiased review. How are you meant to differentiate between games when they are all scored between 9 and 10 . You can’t deny that one of the reasons the publishers are taking a interest in HHG is because he hypes nearly every game that comes out, its much cheaper to spend money on HHG than on tv advertising, I think that you have mentioned this in the warzone and HHG has admitted this himself “everyone wants the GOW treatment”. I have nothing against HHG, I am mearly questioning his integrity based on my observations, I hope HHG can reply to this post explaining why his reviews are more reliable than IGN. Here is the comment from 1vs1by Hyrdo-X1 “You serve developers as a hype man. Hey remember the time you reviewed Godfather II and 9.5/10 and then you said we should send EA your review along with IGN’s Gamespot’s and other sites who gave this game a lower score just so they could appreciate you more?”

        • Torrence Davis says:

          “its much cheaper to spend money on HHG than on tv advertising,” This line cracked me up!

          • I suppose i have to admit that the most fun and laughs I have had on this site come from posting and reading the comments complaining about HHG on the warzone and vidicle threads.

  26. @Torrence, You said: “Scores are for the publishers & developers and also for gamers to gauge weather or not to spend their money”. Now, that is HUGE!, reviewers have a major influence on the buying public, not me, but to those that dont know. I’ll bet the amount of people that spent their hard earned money on that garbage Heavy Rain are PISSED, & I will never listen to people that tricked them into buying that BS@ss game. HipHops viticle was fantastic, vidicles like this is why & what The Warzone was founded on, this is great theater! Unlike IGN & N4G, you dont get banned for expressing your opinion, unless you ridiculously insult someones character & family with hideous vulgarities. I dont agree with HipHop on the entire vidicle but GameSpot should have given the 360 version at least a .1 or .2 lower score if there are that many differences. But the other comments on the show were hilarious & I dont agree with. Also HipHop, Mass Effect 2 is 58hours with multiple endings & multiple ways to play through the game, Gow3 is 8hours & 1 way to play! @UsCmMmAnDer, Killzone 2 was rated high, sold like ****! ODST didn’t get high scores, outsold that overrated Uncharted 2. I think people already look past game reviewers as they do movie reviewers. I pay zero attention to reviewers because they haven’t played games since Pong as I & most of my friends have. Most reviewers do have agendas, they cant get my attention.

    • “I’ll bet the amount of people that spent their hard earned money on that garbage Heavy Rain are PISSED” Nope buddy enjoyed it very thoroughly, just your opinion isn’t of any consensus that you wish that would be associated with.

    • DUDE I THINK HEAVY RAIN WAS GREAT JUST BE GLAD WHEN THEY RELEASE MORE DLC FOR IT

    • CHOZINWON says:

      @Torrence Davis & Man_of_the_year Please explain how PS3 fanboys are worse than this. A fanboy is a fanboy.

    • UsCoMmAnDeR says:

      ODST didn’t get high scores, outsold that overrated Uncharted 2. Im not sure if your serious or tying to make a lame joke. Ill assume its a joke and lol.

    • Man_Of_The_Year says:

      @CHOZINWON http://www.thebitbag.com/2009/12/30/rantasaurus-1-its-just-a-piece-of-technology/

  27. “This vidicle is real talk…” Real fake.

  28. This reminds of when X-Play gave Killzone 2 a 5 out of 5 and PS3 fanboys were all pissed off.

  29. MAN COME ON HIPHOP I EXPECT BETTER OUT OF YOU KNOW MAN. EVERY WEEK ON THE WARZONE YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT REVIEW SCORES AND IT SHOULD NOT MATTER. BUT YOUR FAVORITE GAME DOES NOT GET A 10 AND YOU DO THIS KINDA CHILDISH.

  30. Sorry i died and somehow my limp dead body typed these words… Exact time of death 2:02pm EST Died from Cardiac Arrest Source was emanating through TheBitBag.com a video was paused at 4:59 titled HipHopGamer Talks about Bias in Video Game Journalism. Words spoken to spark the cardiac arrest “MGS4 aint even touching this game, even in terms of story” While this is your opinion HHG those words aren’t in anyway supplanted throughout the video game industry and are of yours alone. I don’t see how even if theses two sites grazed a little off the score it would effect a reader to not buy the game. The overall scores where still well above your normal score and well into the higher echelon or game elite scores. Because you feel a game should have gotten a higher score doesn’t supplant the reviewer to biased reporting it just means your perspectives aren’t the same and you gauge things differently. Because someone thought a little less of the presentation then you doesn’t mean it’s not good. Your words aren’t undebatable facts and truths. Need i remind you recommended G.I. Joe? To me that game was by far one of the worst games this gen, it sucked and what now are you going to say im being biased? Look at IGN they gave it a 5.8, are they still being biased? I felt they were generous with that if any thing. If anything your being biased for expecting straight 10s from everyone. When a lot of sites gave GTA4 a 10 where those that didn’t give it a 10 being biased? And yes im still dead by that erroneous comment you made, MGS4 is by far still regarded industry wide as one of the best games this Generation and by me personally one the best games of all time.

  31. SixAmpFuze says:

    This is so fucked up. I want to what this stupid biased vidicle but it’s not iPhone friendly. In any case can someone who watched it sum up for me how these sites r hating on gow3.I just read gamespots review and didn’t see anything wrong with it. I don’t understand

    • I don’t sense a biased review just a normal….review from a random guys perspective. Here’s what i hate more than anything, arbitrary numbers. Case and point. 8.5 Presentation 9.5 Graphics 9.0 Sound 9.5 Gameplay 8.0 Lasting Appeal 9.3 Overall Well i’ll be if it’s not an average how the hell did you come to 9.3?

      • UsCoMmAnDeR says:

        LOL. Its almost as bad as Microsoft Math. IGN needs to learn how to use a calculator. When I added up those scores I came up with 89%. Could you imagine the heat IGn would have taken on N4G if they would have scored it an 8.9 I think I am going to email them and tell them I am sending them a working calculator in the mail

        • I mean damn i know they said it’s not an average but….. that kind of makes the numbers arbitrary at that point…..

      • If you don’t get why the overall score can differ from the average, no, i won’t go into that. It’s just common sense.

  32. Candid Anthony says:

    not that i think torrence should stop HHG from posting on this site, because i do find HHG entertaining and I like him as a person. But he would never consider it in a million years. Even if HHG did a vidicle (gayest word ever vidicle BTW) of him taking a giant shit on a picture of torrence’s face and posted it on the site torrence would never get rid of him. Others have done far less to T and been taken over the knee, so this should be no shock to anyone.

    • You gotta love Candid and his random appearances, lol. Question though is vidicle gayer than that yellow smiley face with duct tape over the mouth you have as your avatar? Hmmm, tough conclusion to come to huh? lol

  33. cheeseburgerman21 says:

    “At the end of the day just go out there and buy the game. Its really, really that hot and im not just saying that couse its my own personal favorite game. Ive said this about Uncharted 2, ive said this about killzone 2″ I fucking lol´d

  34. Michael A. says:

    Let me help all you cats out who disagree with HipHopGamer. All you are doing is spreading what he said by making it “hot” and filling it with comments (some of which are purely comedic). Once you read the title and see what he is saying, don’t comment. Just move on. Also, why make things personal? None of you guys other than Torrence really know the man. He has an opinion and feels strongly about it. Let him. Do I agree? I’d answer that but the SDF already have a hit out on my life and I now have to go into hiding…

    • LMFAO! And you know your bounty increases with every Warzone you appear on, right. HHG articles are like bitbag community shoutboxes! Everyone shows up, you gotta luv it. Oh yeah i forgot im supposed to have died. Can my family sue HHG for that?

    • CHOZINWON says:

      Speak you mind. If the Xbox fanboys haven’t killed HHG then I’m sure the PS3 fanboys won’t harm you.

  35. Torrence Davis says:

    I just wish he would listen to me. Would make life easier but considering he hasn’t posted in these comments, I think he’s enjoying all of this. You should see the N4G thread with all the people agreeing with him. Some of the comments have been moderated in here. Get used to it cuz that’s how things are gonna be now. I’ve squashed my fanboy addiction and now I’m trying to squash responding to idiotic comments. It hurts inside to see something stupid that I want to respond to but don’t. It hurts so bad. I do it in the hopes that someone will see the light and thank me for it later. I’m about to go cold turkey though.

    • I thank you, Torrence. Now give me your God damn address so I can send you these games! E-mail, motherfucker! Can you send it?!

    • CHOZINWON says:

      HHG is definitely enjoying this and that’s why he post these vidicles. There’s 96 comments in this thread and you and I both know you would never get that many hits if HHG didn’t do what he did. A lot of people claim to have a problem with HHG and some even hate him yet they ALWAYS come back to his vidicles EVERY time.

      • Torrence Davis says:

        I don’t like hate traffic. It’s low quality. I’d rather that all the people speaking up in this thread speak up in other threads too.

    • Torrence you can only give advice you can’t force it onto others. Please go cold turkey, please. Trust me i see some comments and im like “WHAT!?!?” yeah in my head i already phrased a comment to correct or disprove someone else’s but at what cost? How far? How long? What gain? Hopefully you get to where im at and you can shrug that thing called pride off a bit and say “ah fuck it, whatever”. Every now and then it’s fine to respond and debate with an opposed opinion but you have to realize you CAN’T preach to the world. You would never turn everyone to sensible views on N4G or even here. Take it from Kevin Smith (one of my favorite writers/directors): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnkFYTSeT_U I understand you want to be apart of your community but don’t let it consume you. Don’t feel an insolvency has been placed upon you to combat WHY you support HHG or why you feel a certain way about a game. State what you state and stand by it. Sometimes people in here believe if they yell enough at you that your views will magically change. At those times use these… *hands over mythical internet gift* Use it when the time is right ;) you’ll know when.

      • Torrence Davis says:

        Funny you post this. I LOVE Kevin Smith. He’s a true inspiration. Funny thing is at the end of his video he talks about how he just started deleting posts…which I have recently started doing. THANK YOU for that post man! It was GREAT!

        • Yeah man this place we call the “internet” can get dark. I was there. I know where he’s coming from and i suspect you do to. And with me it was extremely tough because by nature i LOVE to debate. Me and one of my best friend can go HOURS just debating each other and without ever disrespecting each other. Debate for me usually opens my mind to thoughts i yet have not conceived. Debating on the internet is a completely different beast. Some maybe most don’t want a debate they go on in the quest for the ever so famous “pwn” or “fail”. There’s no emphasis to understand anothers view, respectfully might i add. When i seen this i was like “You gotta be kidding me”, i thought i was the only one (other) than those i socialize with who felt the same. This completely cleansed me in way, swayed me away from laying my feelings out in text only to have them densely mistaken OR completely ignored. I’ll some of my favorite quotes in the other post because that shit is pure honesty and comedy at the same time and it really couldn’t be any clearer. Spoken from a truly intelligent man.

  36. SixAmpFuze says:

    Why is this vidicle “Hiphopgamer Talks About Bias In Video Game Journalism” and on n4g it’s. Gow3 deserves. A 10 not biased journalism? Are they diff vidicles?

    • Yeah there is a mistake in the title. They are both meant to say “HHG is biased video game journalism”. :P

  37. cy4life77 says:

    I think HHG is really cool but I can’t agree with this one. There’s really no such thing as journalism without bias. Journalists are human beings. They’re susceptible to bias, prejudice and payola, just like anybody else. It’s business.

  38. SixAmpFuze says:

    -ok i just watched the vidicle and this HAS TO BE A JOKE.HHG just flushed himself down a toilet with this.how do u make a video crying about other reviewers not giving the game a perfect score when the score they gave the game was great?I dont believe this video is a fanboy video i believe its a scorn lovers video.Dude im sure GOW 3 is great but u have to stop this bs.you said odst was boring,ugly,and the sound was shitty and it was just more halo but said it was great and gave it a 8 or so. how could u say these guys r biased? -HHg you have said many many times that you dont want to pay for live and think psn being free makes it better. -I havent played gow3 and i dont plan on getting it for sometime because there”s other games i plan on playing that are heads and shoulders above gow 3 to me.

  39. REALZILLA says:

    HHG you need to chill homie. I understand you are passionate about gaming and the GOW, but you need to start being alot more objective. You said your self that these reviews are option based. Maybe you should have said, I don’t understand some of these reviews these other sites are saying about GOW3, what do you guys think and pole people on there options. I can’t put my stamp on this one. You back slid on this one, you didn’t loose me thou. Now TD, you and the getta long gang are really pissing off with the game play over visuals, but that is another story my friends.

  40. LordVonPS3 says:

    Have to agree with you HHG in that 8.5 for presentation is a pretty low score. Having said that, it’s probably not a good idea to be calling anyone stupid – at least not when you’re principally addressing so many people, leave the trash talking to the comments… Constructive criticism can be as useful, someone can take it well – or not, but there’s no use in making a big, bad deal out of it. After all, I’m sure you’re really only looking to make more friends, not enemies! I think I shall have to start up my own site in the arse end of nowhere to express my thoughts, I clearly spend too much time commenting on other people’s.

    • Hey! If you do such a thing let me know i’ll definitely check it out. We had some pretty good after warzone chats…. So i’ll be interested in checking it out.

  41. hiphopgamer says:

    WOW over 100 comments this is interesting, warzone this friday there will be chaos and closure but I will say this for now. The complaints that I get about my journalism, the hate that I get from showing passion for our industry, the hypocrites that talk shit about me and yet do the same things in other situations, it’s funny how alot of you talk so much and yet still can’t keep it real. TORRENCE wow man I got something for you this friday here’s a hint ” PD ” 1luv ya’ll and oh by the way I’m glad you guys feel that I’m a bad Journalist lol that means what’s coming next is gonna well you’ll see

    • No hiphop this issue is over. Let’s not ruin a Warzone by having you versus the fans on a vidicle you made. You said your peace in the vidicle. People have said their peace in the comments. Enough of this GOW3 circle jerk. Lets move on…

    • MrMondaynight says:

      Hiphopgamer you need to stop and fucking LISTEN!!! Look at what your doing! You call people Hypocrites but at the end of the day your a HYPOCRITE your damn self! You complain about people hating on you but again, at the end of the day YOU GIVE PEOPLE THE AMMUNITION TO HATE!! Its great that you have passion for the industry, (like most of the other journalists on the web,your NOT the only one) but A lot of times your Execution is just plain bad. Journalist like Dan shu of bitmob and Jeff gerstman from GIANTBOMB Have great PASSION for games but they dont make illogical comments,act ignorant and make invalid articles. Im sure your gonna make somewhat legitimate articles for the next couple of weeks then revert back to showing your true phoney journalistic,fanboyish colors. HIPHOPGAMER PLEASE Listen to TORRENCE DAVIS,he is an intelligent and educated person! Take what your “Big brother” said in the comment section into consideration and better yourself! STOP BEING IGNORANT!!!!!!

  42. nope, its never over. lets get it in on friday, ill be there with popcorn. good job hiphop, you say the things a lot of people are afraid to say. thx for keeping real and not conforming to society.

    • MrMondaynight says:

      You call THAT keeping it real??? SMH, I think your a product of soldier boy

    • No it is over. The staff has talked to Tor and he has said that we are not bringing this up during the Warzone. There is nothing else to discuss. Everyone has said their opinion in here. Nothing is going to change peoples opinions in the Warzone. The topic is done. Now lets move on

  43. MrMondaynight must be man of the years new screen name.

    • Man_Of_The_Year says:

      Nope. There can only be 1 Man of the Year. And that’s me. But I agree with MrMondaynight. If you think this vidicle is “thx for keeping real and not conforming to society.” you are absolutely as delusional as HipHopgamer and a product of his ignorance. YOU SEE TORRENCE!!! HERE IS THE KIND OF MENTALITY AND “EDUCATION” YOU ARE BRINGING TO THIS SITE BECAUSE OF HIPHOPGAMERS IGNORANCE. I thought you wanted to teach…dmansodo is clearly a product of HHG’s mis-informative information.

  44. I am really trying to be civil about this, but I’m having a hard time not getting really pissed. The Hercules being a boss fight spoiler, without so much as a warning or spoiler alert in the title, has me pissed in a way that I haven’t been in a while. HipHopGamer… you’re the one who needs to go work for a kiddie mag. This is a new low even for you. It was completely unprofessional and unbecoming of someone of your standing in the industry. I’ve been a fan of yours for a while, but after this I’m really about to just completely stop watching anything you do, other than the WZ. Also, please don’t ever discuss a score given by another site to a game when you hand out 9′s and 10′s for EVERY GAME that comes out. A 9.3 is a really good score. Quit bitching because you got your feelings hurt by something so petty. If I were you, I would be happy that all these sites are fucking up. Them fucking up is just opening the door even more for you to get more shine.

  45. Tor, you say you really want HHG to listen to you and make him a better journalist with more reasoning etc. Well, you need to find a tactic, and I think MattG is on the right track. HHG didn’t post until he had 100 posts, replying as if he had not read all the posts. Clearly, he likes attention, and sadly, all types of attention. He doesn’t care whether it’s praising or hate. (Seriously, i don’t get this at all. Who wants to get remembered in life for that. “Contribution to the world – making it worse.”) Ontopic now, you need a cure and I would suggest what MattG said. Like a child, a cat or a human being. Give them less attention, show them that the behavior is not OK, and they will most likely listen more carefully, and adapt, after a while. The problem is of course N4Fanboys, where he can refill his attentionmeter. Edit: would just like to add – it’s not that I’m suggesting that we should remove his rights to speak up. Just saying that we shouldn’t encourage material that is created without reasoning and for getting attention.

  46. SixAmpFuze says:

    Hhg no one here is questioning your passion for your craft. We all know you love all things gaming. In the vidicle you hate on a few reviewers and their opinions within their reviews but every negative u found with them is exactly what you aemre doing in this video. To Chris roper gow3 is a 9.3 is that bad? NO to u it’s a 25000 is that bad ? NO but you have to understand just because gow3 has pretty graphics doesn’t mean iT’s gods gift to gaming.it’s gow with pretty graphics it’s the same gameplay, which isn’t bad all the time but if you are not into [ ] [ ] ^ ^. Types of games you won’t be hyped for this. In this video you honestly sound like a cry baby when you are comparing me2 to gow3. Because me2 got better scores by various people you feel they r biased. Then when you said gamespot should be xspot made you sound lime a very upset Sony fanboy. There’s nothing wrong with questioning reviews if things are blatantly hating on the game or console but every gow3 review has been fair and GREAT. I feel the reason behind this video is because you love gow. So much you want other to love it as much as you and that’s why your upset about the 9′s and 9.3′s. Your a gow fanboy , I’m a too human fanboy

  47. ok, so now im a product of hhg and im mis-informed because i agree with hhg? so every time hhg post something and anybody who agrees with him is ignorant and being mis-informed? dude, you guys are dumb if you feel that way. its obvious you are jealous of hiphop cause hes getting to do things you wish you could and hes being himself. i dont agree with a lot of stuff hhg says or does but at least he has the balls to do and say how he feels. every time he puts something up on the site Man_Of_The_Year has to try and discredit it as if he knows more than anybody on the site. stop the hate blood its getting old and besides, you said you were leaving the site and not posting anymore so bounce that away!

    • MrMondaynight says:

      Sigh, Yes dmansoda your right! HHG “has the balls”……TO EMBARRASS HIMSELF! You want the hate blood flow to stop?? Tell Hiphopgamer to stop giving people reasons to HATE and smarten up!

    • Sure, you can agree with his opinions, but seriously, if you can’t see what he is doing a lot of the time… Then… When he starts out by saying that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and 15 seconds later say that your opinion is wrong if you give the presentation 8,5 (which is great). IT’S WRONG! Of course HHG does not think so since his mind ain’t working that way. If you – dmansodo – cannot see what he is doing right there, I suggest that you and everyone who can’t see it start reading more books, newspapers, analyze texts, debate with your parents etc. I seriously think it’s sad when humanity reaches these depths. It’s like watching FOX News with O’Riley not understanding that he is an ass. And MrMonday, you are right, You don’t fix a problem by removing the symptoms, you do it by removing the CAUSE and that’s where you, dmansodo, are flawed in your logic.

    • Man_Of_The_Year says:

      @dmansodo “k, so now im a product of hhg and im mis-informed because i agree with hhg?” – First try hitting the “REPLY” button under the comment you are replying too. That would be a great start in your long road of education. “so every time hhg post something and anybody who agrees with him is ignorant and being mis-informed?” - No. I have given credit to HHG before when he has done some really good shows and I have agreed with him before (do some research). However, when he does display ignorance, I will always “discredit” HHG every time he tries to pass off mis-information as FACT and believe me…I don’t have to TRY at all. All the information I use to discredit him is information available on the internet where HHG should have looked before making complete BS statements. HHG is DESTROYING his own credibility by creating mis-informed vidicles and having followers like yourself agreeing with him…case in point this very vidicle. You saying “thx for keeping real and not conforming to society.” to a clearly bias rant of him complaining about bias reviews. How can you not see the issue here? And you say that HHG has the balls to “keep it real”. He is NOT keeping it real, and it doesn’t take BALLS to spread mis-information. It takes BALLS to rise above the ignorance and be completely unbiased to spread the truth and help educate current and future gamers. It’s ok to have a preference. Sony, MS it doesn’t matter which company you prefer…but to be professional, you have to leave your preferences at the door and use your form of media to express your opinions….which should ALWAYS be backed by facts, common knowledge and sources. This creates CREDIBILITY. Something HHG is running very short on….if not empty already. “you said you were leaving the site and not posting anymore so bounce that away!” – It’s amazing how so many of HHG’s followers actually want me to leave. I use sources and links to prove HHG’s errors and ignorance, and HHG’s followers that praise him for spreading mis-information want me to leave. It’s amazing that FACTUAL information is not welcomed on this site from the Legion of HHG followers. It’s amazing that they don’t question him and accept the opinions from others that use FACTS and sources with links to prove HHG is incorrect. You are a perfect example of one of HHG’s myopic followers.

  48. Lol the bitbag is over run by SDF.

  49. first of all i am not a follower of hiphop, i am a fan of the bitbag. i dont even visit his website, i go to the bitbag daily. so you are the one with the problem if you dont see what these other sites are doing with their reviews. as far has hitting the reply button, maybe i dont feel like it. kiss my ass sea bass. go adopt some kids or something and stop rambling on about nada. why are you never on the warzone if you know soo much? why dont you meet me on the warzone this friday, or are you one of those guys who doesnt have a mic?

    • Man_Of_The_Year says:

      Great comment!! You just completely discredited yourself from any future grown up conversation. Good job kid. Now you are going to have to sit at the kiddy table with USCOMMANDER.

  50. you didnt answer the question moron, why are you not on the warzone?

    • Man_Of_The_Year says:

      Oh here we go. Resorting to name calling, the last defense to a losing argument. I have a life. And on Friday Nights and Saturday Nights, I am hanging out in downtown Toronto either catching the Leafs game or a Raptors game, I could also be out dining, hitting up a club or going out for dinner, which I would rather be doing than sitting in a chair at my computer with a headset plugged in listening to a show that I can listen to while i’m going to work, at work, or any time I have time. I work hard all week so I deserve to live it up on the weekends with friends and family…I think the question is…since you don’t have your own show, or have a column, or a website to maintain…why are YOU available to be on the Warzone during friday nights..?? If you can’t make a persuasive argument right here with written words where you can THINK about your comments and research…what makes you think you stand a chance in a real time conversation with me? I’m done with you kid.

  51. bravo, bravo!!! what a copout, i should have known better than to debate with someone who spends their time watching hockey games. i listen to the show live whenever i get a chance to, its not every friday night and your never in the chat when im there. i work 6 days a week to support my family and i do whatever the hell i want to do on a friday night. just cause im not skipping around canada like a fairy doesnt mean i dont have a life. your an idiot dude, you said you were not going to post anymore and i have gotten you to continue posting. you cant even stand by your own words.

  52. hiphopgamer says:

    It’s funny how this won’t be brought up on the warzone when there seems to be a war going on in the comment section but it’s all good. I’ll just say this and leave it at that 1. I said god of war 3 deserves a 10 I didn’t say that anyone who doesn’t give it a 10 is bias so that point should kill 98 percent of all the comments right now, also the written portion of the vidicle you’ll see I said that GOW 3 received incredible scores, so I have no issues with the scores I have a issue with what certain reviewers used to deduct points which didn’t make sense 2. Tom MC Shea says that the game wasn’t as diverse as God Of War 2 and that the story doesn’t pick up until the end I mean come on are you guys serious that’s the reason for this game not getting perfection that’s bullshit 3. Chris Roper gives the game a 8.5 in presentation shit even Torrence said the presentation of the game is a 10 within the first 3 minutes and soon everyone will see what I mean 4. Reviews are peoples opinions but that’s the difference between me and everyone else, reviews are so critical in this industry and people miss out on great experiences listening to certain reviewers that’s not potraying the game properly. (EXAMPLE – Torrence loves his Iphone correct what if someone was talking shit about the iphone but had misinformation on it and torrence over heard it, torrence is gonna say something about it to correct that person, such as when people say GOW 3 is a button masher that’s another lie because it’s not. That right there is how you educate people on things why? because someone may miss out on the iphone based on someone’s bullshit opinion so yes we should care about what’s being thrown out there in our industry opinion or not we have to keep the people in the know of what’s right and what’s real) Us as true gamers should care about that. No i’m not a developer but I put myself in their position sometimes because they got families, they work hard and when a reviewer says something like the god of war 3 is only 8 hours or 9 hours that’s a lie. People will believe this stuff who’s not in the know like we are I mean imagine if you guys had a product that was being treated a little bias and unfair in the media you would speak on it, so I do the same thing. 5. I spoke to my man Stig today and he said that my video was spot on and also any reviewer saying the game is 8 or 9 hours is straight BS and that’s coming from the games director 6. No one has to give GOW 3 a 10 but at least give a good reason for your score deductions I mean look at the FF 13 situation both versions receive the same score when PS3 is superior this time around, yet mlb 2k10 360 gets the higher score than ps3 because of jaggie issues this is bias and unfair and it happens all the time (GAMESPOT). 7. You guys don’t have to care about it but I do and no this isn’t a fanboy vidicle man I gave no more heroes 2 a 10 for the wii cause the game is on another level man it’s great, i gave heavy rain a 10, splinter cell is looking like a 10 as well, mass effect 2 got a 9, and yeah I give high scores but in truth I only review games that I really like or think is gonna be great. Think about it if you only reviewed games of uncharted 2 and gears of war calibur then most of your reviews will be 9′s and 10′s as well feel me. 8. Now panzer dragoon is a game Torrence will kill for he said he will buy it day one all that shit correct, no one has seen the game on nex gen consoles, we don’t know what it will play like but hey that doesn’t matter because torrence is a fan and he’s gonna get that anyway if it gets announced so is that a bad thing no he’s a gamer and that’s great. If he says that the game is game of the year before other games come out maybe that game is doing things on such a high level that no one will compete with it this year in terms of raw power, truthfully GOW 3 has shown this leap over every game watch when you guys see it for yourselves 9. All this hate towards me is fine but I’ll tell you this alot more people is backing me up on this one and at the end of the day I’m real enough to put this industry on my back and speak on shit that everyone else let slide so I guess I’m more than a journalist in this industry but a major voice for the gamers that love and respect what we do. god bless ya’ll and you know what we don’t have to talk about this on the warzone man it’s cool, change my titles, do whatever it’s all good, at the end of the day we all know what’s real and who’s doing what to represent. PEACE

    • @hiphopgamer Hiphop in the first minute of the review you state “God of war 3 deserves a 10 not biased gaming journalism,” you are clearly stating that journalists who do not give GOW3 a 10 are biased, these words came from your mouth. IGN gave the presentation an 8.5 because of the lack of consistency in graphical fidelity and also some of the character models did not look as good as Kratos, I have to admit this does seem harsh as most games suffer from this, but for a game that is “setting the bar” or is “in a league of its own” this seems uncharacteristic. Could it be that GOW3 is just as good as other great games and and is not quite deserving of a 10? Also a 10 for presentation would mean that it is perfect, is perfect presentation even possible, as graphics are constantly improving and things can always be done better given the time. When it comes down to the length of the game this is also relative to the skill of the player. If it took the reviewer around 10 hours to complete the game can you really argue with this? If Stig said the game is longer than this, how can he really prove this as it depends on how you play it? I was able to play GOW2 in around this time and I was left wanting more because the game was soo good! The most important score of any review is the gameplay. IGN gave it a 9.5, do I need to say any more? Is this reviewer stupid for giving this score? On the subject of dropping a score because the graphics are inferior on one system. I recall your review of Bayonetta on the ps3, the game has a lower framerate, a lower resolution and at the time of your review had huge load times. Does this make your review biased? As a true gamer you should just say fuck the reviews and accept that your opinion is not always going to be the same for other peoples’. I am sure you will review GOW 3 highly and I will accept it as you opinion. I will not get all sensitive a write a long hate comment like this one. I will respect it as your opionion and move on with my life (life that will be consumed with playing GOW3 in the coming weeks). As a GOW fan I expect the final game to be good but not gaming perfection, its just fustrating that you can not see this as well.

  53. LordVonPS3 says:

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  54. cheeseburgerman21 says:

    1. “have a issue with what certain reviewers used to deduct points which didn’t make sense” Didnt make sense to YOU. 2. “Tom MC Shea says that the game wasn’t as diverse as God Of War 2 and that the story doesn’t pick up until the end I mean come on are you guys serious that’s the reason for this game not getting perfection that’s bullshit” “that’s bullshit” Opinion. 3. “Chris Roper gives the game a 8.5 in presentation shit even Torrence said the presentation of the game is a 10 within the first 3 minutes and soon everyone will see what I mean” Again its opinion. Your opinion isnt fact no mather how much you want it to be. You´re not god. 4. “Reviews are peoples opinions but that’s the difference between me and everyone else, reviews are so critical in this industry and people miss out on great experiences listening to certain reviewers that’s not potraying the game properly.” I dont see you crying when other games get low scores. And again, “reviewers that’s not potraying the game properly.” OPINION<————- 5. “I spoke to my man Stig today and he said that my video was spot on and also any reviewer saying the game is 8 or 9 hours is straight BS and that’s coming from the games director” Game director of GOW3 thinks GOW3 deserves 10/10 we´ll have more on this breaking story at 11. 9. "lot more people is backing me up on this one" Yeah the Sony Defence force. I could make a article named "XBOX360 SUPPERIOR TO PS3 IN EVERY WAY AND HAS A HIGHER QUALITY IN GAMES" and the fucking xbots would be jumping on my dick. Deal with this. Your opinion IS NOT fact. It will never be. You claim to be a religous man show some fucking humility. You not the end all be all of video games. You keep pushing your opinions as fact and thats some special ed shit.

  55. SixAmpFuze says:

    3. “Chris Roper gives the game a 8.5 in presentation shit even Torrence said the presentation of the game is a 10 within the first 3 minutes and soon everyone will see what I mean” -with chris ropers presentation score he included problems he had with the story not just visual flare. 4. “Reviews are peoples opinions but that’s the difference between me and everyone else, reviews are so critical in this industry and people miss out on great experiences listening to certain reviewers that’s not portraying the game properly.” -i agree with you to a point but in the case of gow noone has portrayed gow improperly.chris roper stated many times how great gow is but in his closing comments he stated its not perfect because of story problems,visual problems, and whatever i dont remember. “2. Tom MC Shea says that the game wasn’t as diverse as God Of War 2 and that the story doesn’t pick up until the end I mean come on are you guys serious that’s the reason for this game not getting perfection that’s bullshit” -he thats his opinion then yes thats why its not getting perfection. alot of reviewers didnt give it perfection for their own reasons. “(EXAMPLE – Torrence loves his Iphone correct what if someone was talking shit about the iphone but had misinformation on it and torrence over heard it, torrence is gonna say something about it to correct that person, such as when people say GOW 3 is a button masher that’s another lie because it’s not.” -i know u love gow but hhg gow is a hack and slash button masher. “6. No one has to give GOW 3 a 10 but at least give a good reason for your score deductions I mean look at the FF 13 situation both versions receive the same score when PS3 is superior this time around, yet mlb 2k10 360 gets the higher score than ps3 because of jaggie issues this is bias and unfair and it happens all the time (GAMESPOT).” -i agree with you on both counts here “9. All this hate towards me is fine but I’ll tell you this alot more people is backing me up on this one and at the end of the day I’m real enough to put this industry on my back and speak on shit that everyone else let slide so I guess I’m more than a journalist in this industry but a major voice for the gamers that love and respect what we do.” -” cheeseburgerman-Yeah the Sony Defence force. I could make a article named “XBOX360 SUPPERIOR TO PS3 IN EVERY WAY AND HAS A HIGHER QUALITY IN GAMES” and the fucking xbots would be jumping on my dick.” “5. “I spoke to my man Stig today and he said that my video was spot on and also any reviewer saying the game is 8 or 9 hours is straight BS and that’s coming from the games director” “-cheeseburgerman-Game director of GOW3 thinks GOW3 deserves 10/10 we´ll have more on this breaking story at 11.”

  56. XanderZane says:

    Well HipHop is a biase PS3 fanboy anyways. I can’t remember the last time I heard him say anything wonderful about an XBox 360 or Wii game. He’ll praise every PS3 exclusive until he’s blue in the face. lol!! Anyways, that’s his opinion and only an opinion. I don’t understand why he’s bashing other reviewers when they all have an opinion just like him and I’m sure many people don’t agree with his opinions either. What’s really made me laugh about this video is before he start ranting and bashing the IGN and Gamespot reviews he said, “First of all, I respect these journalist.” Really HipHop!?!? REALLY..REALLY…?? LMAO!! Please give it a rest.

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