February 21, 2010 at 9:39 am
The Final Fantasy XIII Smear Campaign
Does hating on fanboys make you a fanboy?
Virtua Fighter 5 trailer
Sony’s Universal Controller
MW2 online will never get fixed
Fat – the game
Matt – PB Winterbottom
Mike A – Alan Wake impressions
Stephen – Sonic 4 and 2D classics
Music
Kanye West Featuring Mos Def and Freeway
“Two Words”
College Dropout
Assassin’s Creed movie releasing in May 2015 
EA Sports engineer: Wii U is crap 
Amazon’s Mayhem sale promises empty wallets by end of May 
Steam: Borderlands 2, Mass Effect Collection, CS: GO F2P weekend 
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HAVE NOT HEARD THE WARZONE YET JUST POSTING A TIP IF YOU GUYS HAVE A WAL MART NEAR YOU I WOULD GO CHECK IT OUT THEY PUT MORE GAMES IN THERE LITTLE BARGIN BIN I JUST PICKED UP HAZE THIS MORNING FOR 8 BUCKS.
Even for 8 bucks I couldnt stomach having haze in my collection.
i think that hating on one group of fanboys makes you a fanboy.
anyways, here’s a funny sig i just saw on the GT forums… http://i46.tinypic.com/15gwh93.png
Does the PS3 version of modern warfare 2 have severe online cheating issues like the 360 version because I haven’t experienced any yet? Not even in a private match.
Honestly I never run into it on the 360 as well… but I dont play overly much.. and I only play hardcore which is probably less likely to see the cheaters… at least that are modding
The one glitch you will see often is the infinite care packages. Avoid ground war with your life.
Final Fantasy VII is overrated. Solid game, but nothing incredibadass like some people believe. That to the bat cave sound effect made me laugh.
Stop argueing with HHG for the love of god. His a flaming fanboy with IQ of a goldfish. Just stop. While your at it get ridd of braynbasher and that downs syndrom guy Eric or whatever his named. And jon shaw whos only job is screaming like a special ed kid for 5 minutes then just remain queit for the rest of the show. Jesus christ man.
I dont particularly like everyone on the show but dang dude. You just want everyone AXED cause YOu dont like them LOL. I do agreee with the arguing with HHG….every week its the same dumb arguments about PCs. HHG doesnt even play games!!!
Are you kidding me…you open the show with HHG talkin about……PCS. I just started the show and hope this subject ENDS soon. This topic is gettin soooooooooooo old.
does HHG need another spar around from the fans about the subject of pc gaming? every1 already wrote on the other WZ link that PC gamers dont buy their copies from stores they buy it online, I BOUGH WORLD OF WARCRAFT AND ALL THE EXPANSIONS ONLINE HHG, he should open mIRC and to interact with his fans too.
@Tochi-1282 Maybe its because there are 1million people playing vs 100,000 people playing on the PS3. You know there is a larger margin for error.
saying 100,000 you arent fooling anyone. Typically every night at about 7pm you see 500k+. Stop that fanboy nonsense. 360 does not reach 1 million either.
Your inner hate is showing….. Just thought i’d let you know we can see it
Yo Tor quick thing about the Warzone Description, small thing but, Two Words is from “College Dropout.” I’m a mad Kanye fan so I just had to correct that.
-tor on the next warzone either don’t say mmmckay or everytime u say it u have to say drugs are bad mmmckay -why would wii games going to the ps3 be so much better than staying on the wii? The only difference would be the graphics and people buying the wii don’t have a problem with the graphics. -3rd party games not selling on the wii Isn’t nintendos problem it’s the developers for making shitty games or games that the wii demographic won’t buy - - -
thats the worst excuse that u can make,” u dont see xbots doing what ps3 fanboys are doing” u just pay more attention to ps3 fanboys. like the whole metacritic user review scandal, it started with xbots trolling LBP and they also got Resistance. and youtube and a lot of forums are full of 360 fanboys as much as ps3 fanboys. if u really hated all fanboys u woulndt lean all the hate towards the ps3 fanboys so it just add up to the conspiracy theory of “torrance the closet xbot” and remember, just cuz u have every console, that doesnt make u inmune to the fanboy sickness. oh and i dont know who said the thing about nobody complained when Bioshock went multiplat. well is logical cuz it wasnt really a 360 franchise, went GTA went multiplat on the ps2 era nobody really cared or made petitions cuz it was known as a pc franchise. but games like the devil may cries, the final fantasys, the metal gears are all known to be from the playstation brand. at least thats how they are percived and it goes both ways also, cuz xbots glee everytime a playstation exclusive title went multiplat it was just more ammo for the ps3 vs 360 console warz. and srlsy, why the hell should i spend my money on 2 consoles that basically is offering me the same exact games also thats extremly dumb. i bought the 360 cuz i saw it gave me more for my money, ppl take for granted the whole xboxLIVE thing and complained about the 50dlrs, but believe me u truly get your money’s worth with it. currently listening update later.
@Ramses “and srlsy, why the hell should i spend my money on 2 consoles that basically is offering me the same exact games also thats extremly dumb.” I for one have gamed on the 360 for years. Knew I would eventually get a PS3. BUt for awhile there was nothing on the system that I was interested in. That changed when … 1. they dropped the price and released the slim 2. Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain (2 games that interested me) So what I do now is get multiplats on the 360 and exclusives on the PS3. And I am sure there are many others who do the same thing who own both systems. Yes they do offer SOME of the same games. BUt if you want to play Halo, Gears etc…you have to get a 360. If you want too play heavy rain, GOW3 etc…you have to get a PS3. So how is what I choose to do with my 2 systems…extremely dumb???? PS- Most of the ppl who complain about LIVE either dont have a 360 and/or cant afford the yearly price. Plus you can get LIVE for 35 a year easily.
yessir.. same deal I always knew id own all the systems when it was worth it… for me I got 360 first because it was out first… I bought PS3 when Metal Gear came out because to me it was the first true game on the ps3 I want that was worth buying…. and I knew more games would come eventually…..but when it was 500+ for a PS3… youd have to be mental to own it… cuz it really wasnt doing anything… hell the dashboard was even garbage. Anyway yes I buy my multiplats for 360 mainly due to the fact I have live so why wouldn’t I buy the game for the better online system? and I usually only buy ps3 exclusives on the PS3… which is fine with me because I use it for a video player a lot anyway… so it still gets use even when its not playn games.
@Ashby JC yeah ok i take it back, is not dumb, it just used to be, i was still caught up when the ps3 was worth like 600 or 500 dlrs, now with the price cut is a good decision to buy it. but b4 mid 2009 it was like, crazy to do so.
Its cool… Yeah your right when the PS3 was 500-600 there was NO WAY IN HELL I was paying that much for a system. One game that I feel would have turned the tide earlier for the PS3 is if they had secured exclusive timed rights to GTA4. That is the ONE game that myself and I am sure MANY others would have paid 400 or more for.
Been set up that way since day one I had Live on the first Xbox. All multiplatform games and just exclusives on the PS2/PS3.
Okay… on the CoD MW2 thing… come on now Tor, don’t be a big hater because your friends won’t man up and play hardcore. Convince them to play hardcore… normal is pussy anyway… only time I play normal is when I hop on for a few games with you guys honestly. O btw.. good job on finishing the game and you are right the story made sense… it was a typical action move twist type of story… I really don’t know how they didn’t understand the story in CoD….. And for the people who said “see I told you not to buy the game” etc…. I bet most people like Tor who own CoD…got more playtime out of that game then any other game in the past year… so in the end it was still worth the money spent… its very hard to hate on a game that gave you at least 50+ hours of gaming….and in tors case almost 90 hours of gaming. Now ill have to comment on HH comments… I have to ughhh… lol HH sounded like a huge hypocrite when he brought up taking a game for face value when he is the first person that will bring up graphics b4 anything or will compare games that don’t even have anything to do with each other…cough cough *UC2 or GoW3 compared to everything ….. so what the fuck is up with that? Also I’m tired of this bullshit about controls etc and how he was talking about people don’t like hard games as much anymore and this is coming from someone who admittedly said he plays games on Easy… I’m sure its not all games (at least I hope) but like I said b4 Hypocrite much? Talk about people not liking games to be hard and yet plays on easy themselves? No disrespect but honestly…. come on… Lmao ahhh well fuck it what can ya do? lol Good show… too bad I missed it… maybe ill make the next one.
Agreed with everything except the MW2 part…. Check my profile not a single trophy
and still going strong! Well i gotta admit i played it on 360 so that’s why there’s no trophy LMFAO! but anyway game is no longer in my library…. Sayonara ROACH!
Im offically off the Battlefield Bad Company 2 Bandwagon. I just canceled my preorder. I dont see the hype behind this game. The game is a typical shooter with 1 gimmick. Being able to blow up select parts on a map. To me the fps genre is becoming really stale. The only games that really push the genre are the halo series, call of duty series, and killzone 2 did more than alot of people give it credit. Mag did some nice stuff too and im sure this game will get a sequel and improve the flaws. Shooters are becoming like sports games imo. Buy 1 or 2 a year and your set.
xbots hate the PS3. PS3 droids hate the xbox. Rigz hate on competing systems and wish they would fail. I don’t any of my systems to fail, I just want to keep playing the best they have to offer. I’ll always hate PS3 rigz more than any other. There’s nothing you can say to change that. I know Xbots exists, but it’s always the same bullshit with them. They come into forums, yell that the ps3 sucks and Halo 3 sells more and run away. PS3 rigz make petitions, cry when stuff goes multiplat, always compare graphics when they should know that the PS3 is a more powerful system, start smear campaigns, flood all the forums and N4g sites tearing apart any positive news for the xbox, etc, etc. I don’t give a fuck what any of you say on this matter. It’s taken 4 years for me to come to these conclusions and nothing you do or say will change that. PS3 rigz are also the worst in history of gaming. PS1 rigz use to argue hardware, not game. It was always the better 3D system vs the better 2D system with the PS1 vs Saturn shit. It was funny and not taken too seriously. Right now people need to take medication over their seriousness of this console war. Don’t put words into my mouth. I target PS3 rigz because they are the worst. They are the bane of this console war. I will not say anything more about this matter and continue my complaints about them. Here’s a perfect example for you: http://www.n4g.com/up/13764/BlogPost-170045.aspx
Its so true and the people who complain that you are being biased are the ps3 fanboys… because they truly don’t understand how extreme they can be.
this is the perfect example as to why i say your biased against the ps3 rigz, when the 64bit era, the rigz arguments was all about games not hardware power, the N64 squashed the ps1 in the graphics department and it was a back and forth thing. even on teh ps2 the rigz talked about games while xbots talked about graphics. srlsy do u think its just the rigz that cry whenever one of the franchises goes multiplat? what do u think happened when the FF series jumped the boat from the nintendo to the ps? and if u can check the forumz the wiifans are throwing all this to the rigz. like i said u only see qhat u wanna see. but like u said theres nothing we say to chg your mind in that aspect ur like HHg xD.
You’re problem Ramses is you think that I don’t think Xbots exist. Yes, they exist. However, they aren’t as bad as PS3 rigz and will always get more attention from me. That shouldn’t bother you at all, unless of course you are one of them and I’m hurting your feelings.
@Ramses while i agree with you that ps3 fanboys are not the only group of fans who whine and cry whenever something wrong happens for one of their exclusive games, they are the biggest and most notable group who do a very good job at putting themselves out there. for example look at N4G, off the top of anyones head you would think that a news site for gamers would be unbiased and open to all gamers but spend a few minutes fliping through the pages and you’ll see more pro-ps3 articles than almost any other sub category on there. (to be honest, its not as bad as it used to be….) “srlsy do u think its just the rigz that cry whenever one of the franchises goes multiplat” once again thats not what this argument is all about. it is how each group deals with the so called problems they are presented with. read this again -”PS3 rigz make petitions, cry when stuff goes multiplat, always compare graphics when they should know that the PS3 is a more powerful system, start smear campaigns, flood all the forums and N4g sites tearing apart any positive news for the xbox, etc, etc.” you rarely see this stuff on big sites like N4g when it comes to the 360 or wii fans getting upset over something happening to them so the entire idea that “u only see qhat u wanna see” goes right out the window when your looking at a news site that gathers news for all types of gamers. Does it make me more biased towards hating on the ps3 if i see more stupid shit coming from the fanboy camp even when im not intentionally looking for it? and if the tides where to change and 360 fanboys or even wii fangirls where to come out of the closet and reign supreme dominance, do you honestly think i wouldn’t get tired of the crap they would put out there? allot of us are treating the ps3 fanboys just how we would treat all fanboys in general who go overboard over the silliest stuff? im guessing that by me saying that apple puts out overpriced products makes me biased towards MS as well? even though i own a 80gb Ipod and love iTunes……
it cannot be ignored how much fucking flack ps3 owners got near the launch of the system. for 2 solid years, 360 asshats were comparing ps3 exclusives both in terms of quality and sales, it was resistance 1 vs gears 1, etc etc. i don’t give a fuck if torrence hates ps3 fanboys more, and quite frankly i’m not surprised. remember how many system spec comparisons were made, prior and well after the launch of the ps3. some 360 asshat will post some shit article about how the ps3′s hardware was overall inferior to the 360′s and then the ps3 owners, including myself would write long sensible rebutles, in the hope that the jackasses will see reason, but that never worked. before torrence acknowledged that the ps3 is the overall more powerful system, he was one that was very adamant that both the 360 and ps3 were equal in terms of overall power. it’s these assinine arguments that went on for far too long. torrence has always preferred the 360 to the ps3, and has been and still is biased towards it, and that’s nothing to debate about. he is not one of those that wants to see the system fail, and i don’t see anything wrong with having a preference(afterall, i prefer pc and ps3 gaming anyday). anyways, just as he said, he will always hate ps3 fanboys more and nothing will change his mind, i feel the same about 360 fanboys because they started all this fucking bullshit, and had the support of the 360 biased media, poorly rating ps3 exclusives, and talking shit about the system and it’s features, and it’s still an ongoing issue to this day…
@ Torrance b4 u read my response Torrence i suggest u watch john carnack Keynote about the powers of the ps3. the Ps3 is not more powerful than the 360. thats some weird logic u got there torrance xD ( the whole hurting feelings thing) and its even funnier cuz guys on mIRC that night were calling me an xbot. like i said, it doesnt bother me that u do it,its just that it adds to the “torrence is an xbot theory” thats going on. @ Daxter -”but spend a few minutes fliping through the pages and you’ll see more pro-ps3 articles than almost any other sub category on there. (to be honest, its not as bad as it used to be….)” srlsy? if i rememeber correctly there was a couple of years(read YEARS) were there was nothing but ps3 bashing. the only time i remember when ps3 rigz went wild was the point leading up to the release of Killzone 2. but MY point is that fanboys are fanboys and they are the same, maybe xbots havent pulled the whole petition thing but they have done stupid stuff also like i said the whole metacritic fiasco. -”you rarely see this stuff on big sites like N4g when it comes to the 360 or wii fans getting upset over something happening to them so the entire idea that “u only see qhat u wanna see” goes right out the window when your looking at a news site that gathers news for all types of gamers. the whole metacritic thing doesnt count as smearing? it does now doesnt it? like i said, u only see what u wanna see, they DO flock forums at the same vapid rate as the rigz, look no further thebitbag is full of xbots.(again i dont keep track of fanboys stuff but is no really hard just search some of the sony related stuff) -”wii fangirls” wii users are mostly girs?! j/k -”im guessing that by me saying that apple puts out overpriced products makes me biased towards MS as well? even though i own a 80gb Ipod and love iTunes……” torrance has a really shaky record of bias that only xbots woulndt notice. is there really something wrong with calling out closet fanboys? but oh well im done with this subject. Tor is Fair and balance. just like FOXnews. speaking of wich, Bill o’Reilly says hes not partisan, that he is fair and balance he does news supporting democrats,his fans also believe hes non-partisan , guess that must be true huh? PS;ill never get tired of saying that even if u have all 3 consoles and a powerful PC it doesnt make u immune to the fanboy agenda.
@jmd… dude your sounding really foolish dude… if you seriously dwell on the past gaming years then there is something wrong… and if you don’t think ps3 fanbabbies are not the most noticeable group of people… you would have to have your blinders on… if you look at n4g any single day… its like a circle jerk of ps3 guys agreeing with each other…. hell you can even read an article and see half decent comments in any section due to most of them…. Now all fanboy gamers are retarded and people can hate on which ever group they want but its blatantly obvious which fans are more determined to be the biggest bitches in the industry….. hell if you watch that el pressador vid who i think is a moron anyway…after he has posted over 150 videos… the one time he says something bad about a ps3 game it gets flagged… doesn’t that seem extreme to you…. petitions dont seem mental? People seeing an article and writing rebuttal articles and push them to get approved on n4g doesn’t seem a tad bit excessive? I dont really care what happens in the past because its the past its whats happening right now that is the issue… I also dont care who torrence and HH etc like or dislike its their opinions like you have yours…… So I guess it comes down to why does everyone really truly fuckn care?…… laaa its late peace lol PS*** this generation of people in general in the gaming realm are fucking retarded weirdos*** not most of you guys but we know who they all are lol
@Ramses “srlsy? if i rememeber correctly there was a couple of years(read YEARS) were there was nothing but ps3 bashing” -im glad you brought that up because i was going to mention that but i felt like it wasn’t all that necessary and it would only add onto my original post but….are you saying that its justifiable for one group of fans to go out and act like fools just because they were treated harshly for the few starting years of the ps3? another thing, the metacritic fiasco can be flipped back on to the sony side when gears and halo wars (may have been halo 3?) were released. each of the groups had there fair share of stupidity. “the whole metacritic thing doesnt count as smearing? it does now doesnt it?” -hardly when you consider that the both sides are at fault. sure i agree with you that 360 fanboys did go to the site and trash game scores for ps3 games but you can’t sit there and act like ps3 fanboys did the exact same thing. by bringing up metacritic as an arguing point its almost as if your using it as a stalemate, but not realizing that it is…. a stalemate (one group was not worst that the other because they both were at fault) another thing, who the fuck goes to metacritic in order to figure out whether or not the game is good? you cant take a look at a game and know whether or not your interested in it? im tired of seeing all these metacritic posts because its almost as if you go to metacritic only to look at the user review scores…..why? “like i said, u only see what u wanna see, they DO flock forums at the same vapid rate as the rigz” -but heres the problem with that statement once again, its almost like your saying “if you go to the getto your only going to see poor people”…..no shit. if you go to a ps3 forum, your going to see pro ps3 articles and anti 360 and wii content. the same goes for wii and 360 forums only vise versa. so using forums as some type of debating point is fucking awful unless your talking about the general discussion area. what i was talking about was visiting the main page of a game site and seeing that pro sony agenda on the first page, not visiting the outskirts of the website where anything can happen and normally does. “look no further thebitbag is full of xbots” #1. thats your opinion and it would be hard for me to change that when you have already labeled it and now believe that is the case #2. a majority of regular users don’t go to the comments section in order to know what the site is about #3. why is it that whenever someone does not want to suck on sony’s dick its because their xbots? please, come up with a better excuse because this is getting as old as saying “the ps3 has no games”…..its fucking old “Tor is Fair and balance. just like FOXnews.” -thats fucking hilarious……now that you put it that way, it kind of makes some sense, but you have to be looking at it at a certain angle to see it. i dont know though…..i don’t think he is foxnews just yet but if you spend all your time bashing sony…..hmmm…. ….. but then again if you think about it, i thinking we’re starting to build up in our minds that Tor bashes sony everyday of the week. its not that bad and when he does he mostly has a legit point behind it. also, i like to view sony and the sony fanboys differently. i love sony but i do not like allot of the sony fanboys so when i criticize sony fanboys im not criticizing sony directly. (sorry, just played devils advocate with myself….) “PS;ill never get tired of saying that even if u have all 3 consoles and a powerful PC it doesnt make u immune to the fanboy agenda.” -thats pretty true actually but at the same time it doesn’t mean you can’t try. i love the ps3 and i have held off on getting every other next gen console before i get a ps3 but at the same time i still think allot of the fanboys for the system are fucking retarded. its almost as if the same kids who were fanboys of the 360 jumped ship to the ps3 side right around the time sony started building up steam. also, who came up with the “ps3 rigz” term? it sounds stupid as hell.
@Daxter -”are you saying that its justifiable for one group of fans to go out and act like fools just because they were treated harshly for the few starting years of the ps3?” not really, what im saying is both sides are the same cuz in the end they are fanboys. wich has been my point all along. -” who the fuck goes to metacritic in order to figure out whether or not the game is good? you cant take a look at a game and know whether or not your interested in it? im tired of seeing all these metacritic posts because its almost as if you go to metacritic only to look at the user review scores…..why?” dunno,bcuz some ppl dont have the time or the cash to be waisting the go and view what critics in general say about certain games. unlike movie critics, gaming critics are almost always dead on right. -”but heres the problem with that statement once again, its almost like your saying “if you go to the getto your only going to see poor people”” general forums, not console specific forums, plz that would have been dumb. -”“look no further thebitbag is full of xbots”” im gonna answer all 3 issues about this one, i meant the majority of ppl posting on the comments section, im not really Nostradamus cant see who goes to the bitbag. and is not about jumping on sonys dick is more about something like this: “Heavy rain the game is not doing very well review wise in the eyes of the industry. It is currently sitting at around 8.8 out of 10″ did i had to go to a xbox specific forum to find such a ludicrous statement? -”who came up with the “ps3 rigz” term? it sounds stupid as hell.” dunno, saw torrence using it so i started using since the ps3 fanboys dont have any cool names like the xbots xD
If you’re going to take a quote, please take the WHOLE quote instead of taking only part. ” right now the game is not doing very well review wise in the eyes of the industry. It is currently sitting at around 8.8 out of 10 and with many comments stating a very boring beginning that will last over an hour because you getting to know each character, poor controls, and many plot holes. The setting and circumstances that pertain within the game are also “stolen” from certain big name movies.” When reading reviews…you should actually READ the reviews. 88/100 is a fine score if you just look at the score…but maybe you should ACTUALLY READ WHY the reviewers are giving the game the score they do. Like I stated below, A niche title with an M rating on a console that has a hard time selling it’s exclusives, these kinds of reviews are not very good, especially when you are limiting who within the install base can purchase or want this kind of game within this kind of genre.
@Ramses “not really, what im saying is both sides are the same cuz in the end they are fanboys. wich has been my point all along.” so why pick sides to defend if in the end you and i both know they are all idiots? “dunno,bcuz some ppl dont have the time or the cash to be waisting the go and view what critics in general say about certain games. unlike movie critics, gaming critics are almost always dead on right.” - i don’t know…..i could understand not having the cash but not having the time? c’mon….. were arguing over games/fanboys in the comment section of a game related blog…..its not like we’ve got anything more important to do other than this for right now. allot of the time whenever i want to check out a review for a game ill go to GT. now say what you want about them but thats all i really need to watch in order to get an idea of what the game may of may not be like. but in the end i already have an idea of how the game will turn out and whether or not i would buy/rent/pass it before watching the review and rarely ever am i surprised at how the game turned out to be. while metacritic may seem like the most logical thing you can do in order to decide if you should pick up a game, i personally don’t care for it because your pretty much just going there to look at numbers and quick snipit quotes from the reviews…..but i guess thats my personal standpoint on it :p “general forums, not console specific forums, plz that would have been dumb.” - i don’t know….the last time i went into a the general discussion part of a forum there seemed to be allot of open ended questions….but it may just be the type of gaming forum i last visited. which forum/s are you talking about? “i meant the majority of ppl posting on the comments section, im not really Nostradamus cant see who goes to the bitbag.” - so why make such a general assumption as “look no further thebitbag is full of xbots” when you don’t know if that is necessarily the case and the only strong quote you have to back up that claim is MOTY’s heavy rain statement? im not nostradamus either but i guess the main question would be why is it that when ever someone criticizes sony fanboys you have people running out of the woodworks to defend them as if they are criticizing sony themselves? why can’t you criticize a group of fans without criticizing the company? especially when the fans are nothing like what the company is all about. like sony honestly gives a shit about comparisons or petitions for the games on their system…. you can say that “well, its not fair to only look at one group of fans and completely ignore the other” but myself and a few other people have already stated that if the shoe was on the other foot and xbots where the rambunctious ones, many of us would still have the same positions only we would be criticizing the xbots instead of focusing on ps3 fanboys. plus….they’re all idiots in the end so why not point and laugh? “and is not about jumping on sonys dick is more about something like this: “Heavy rain the game is not doing very well review wise in the eyes of the industry. It is currently sitting at around 8.8 out of 10? did i had to go to a xbox specific forum to find such a ludicrous statement?” - good point, but just because one person says that doesn’t mean “look no further thebitbag is full of xbots”…..i don’t particularly agree with that statement but i could see where MOTY was going with that, though its comes off a bit overly dramatic….but still i don’t understand where your getting that this site is mostly run by xbots. i hope your not mistaking me as an xbot because i don’t even own one….yet. @lifendz…..lol, i guess when you have already been shut out on the warzone and you have nothing left to criticize the only thing you can do is copy
@Daxter241 -”so why pick sides to defend if in the end you and i both know they are all idiots? - i don’t know….the last time i went into a the general discussion part of a forum there seemed to be allot of open ended questions….but it may just be the type of gaming forum i last visited. which forum/s are you talking about?” im part of a community thats mostly of fanboys (85% approx), so thats why im a bit annoyed by xbots(latin btw xD) so thats why whenever i sense a bit of the agenda i call it out. -”- i don’t know…..i could understand not having the cash but not having the time? c’mon….. were arguing over games/fanboys in the comment section of a game related blog…..its not like we’ve got anything more important to do other than this for right now.” i have a lot of time but i know friends that have university and work to juggle imagine that. i for one use metacritic and read the highst,medium and lowest score in a review. but i almost always stick to IGN,Eurogamer and like u GameTrailers, cuz the have the best videoreviews in the industry. of course theres no really anything wrong with renting games to check it out. like somebody above stated, i rarely buy a game that has no multiplayer with a few exceptions like RPG’s. -”so why make such a general assumption as “look no further thebitbag is full of xbots” when you don’t know if that is necessarily the case and the only strong quote you have to back up that claim is MOTY’s heavy rain statement?” like i said i meant the comment section. but dont u think is a very good representation of the community of the bitbag? i went to games on smash website and while i dont really post there the few articles i saw the comments section was full of ps3 fanboys. -”plus….they’re all idiots in the end so why not point and laugh?” i for one have no issue with it, but torrence doing it? it just adds up to a lot of stuff that goes into fanboy territory.but whatever torrence is Fair And Balance. -”but still i don’t understand where your getting that this site is mostly run by xbots. i hope your not mistaking me as an xbot because i don’t even own one….yet.” by “run by xbots” did u meant to say that i think the entire staff of the bitbag is full of xbots? 0.0 and no i dont think ur and xbot, if i would have think u were a fanboy i would have call u out.
@Ramses “im part of a community thats mostly of fanboys (85% approx), so thats why im a bit annoyed by xbots(latin btw xD) so thats why whenever i sense a bit of the agenda i call it out.” - ew…lol, but now i can see a bit more of where your coming from. “i for one use metacritic and read the highst,medium and lowest score in a review.” - i’ve never heard of anyone who uses metacritic in that way…..but thats a pretty smart way to look at it actually. “like somebody above stated, i rarely buy a game that has no multiplayer with a few exceptions like RPG’s.” -yep, over the years i have fallen into that sort of mindset as well because 60 bucks is allot to be spending on something your going to fool around with for a few hours. thats why whenever people start jizzing over gow3 im like “gow 3 will spend more time collecting dust on my self of games than inside my ps3 so why should i spend that much money in order to have it day one?” “but dont u think is a very good representation of the community of the bitbag? i went to games on smash website and while i dont really post there the few articles i saw the comments section was full of ps3 fanboys.” …….good point. haha, i guess i set myself up for that one. “by “run by xbots” did u meant to say that i think the entire staff of the bitbag is full of xbots?” -that and the majority of the commentors.
Xbots hate the PS3. PS3 droids hate the xbox. Rigz hate on competing systems and wish they would fail. I don’t want any of the systems to fail. I’ve owned almost every console that was released since 1986. I just want to keep playing the best they have to offer. I’ll always hate the 360 bots more than any other because it’s always a double standard with them: graphics don’t matter when Halo comes up until Halo Reach is shown then suddenly graphics matter; sales trump everything except when Sony sells better; installing games is for PS3 losers until 360 has an install; hardware problems are blown out of proportion when it comes to 360 but not when it comes to the PS3 YLOD; blu-ray isn’t necessary despite what any dev may say, etc etc. I don’t give a fuck what any of you say on the matter. I’ve had four years in which the industry suddenly went pro-Xbox and now seeks to appear impartial again. It used to be sites were run by gamers and not fanboys seeking to further their own agenda. Now the fanboy commenting on an article isn’t much different than the “journalist” writing a review. I target 360 bots because they are the worst. They feel justified in their fanboyism by proclaiming themselves to be on some anti-fanboy crusade when really they’re doing exactly what they claim to hate about the otherside. Here’s a perfect example: http://www.n4g.com/up/22082/blog.aspx
I see you have built up a reason to hate ps fans. Well I guess I would to if the main company I supported is now making low tier games(SEGA).
Your comment makes no sense…how does SEGA (a multiplat company) have anything to do with Torrence hating PS3 fanboys?
The Playstation 2 made the dreamcast irrelevant. Torrence is still mad that the playstation 2 was considered the “it” console last gen and not the dreamcast.
lmao…..really? …..but in all seriousness……really?
Is this MikeMadden?
heres the real question though….does hating on ps3 fans means your hating on sony? thus does that mean your an xbot? why cant you not like many of the retarded sony fanboys without getting accused of being some sort of fanboy for another system? its time to read in between the lines people….
Tor it’s not right to hate one group more than the other, when they’re both ruining gaming. And if you want to get on someone, then it should be the Xbots (using your terminology). Back when the first Xbox came out they were yelling how the Xbox was going to kill the PS2, and this was the end of Sony (many of which were mad at Sony for aiding in the demise of the Dreamcast. Someone on this site loved the Dreamcast as well, but I won’t say any names
. So PS2 gamers said nothing, and when the PS2 remained on top they bashed the Xbox gamers. Then the announcement of the next gen consoles came out an everything was fine, because both sides didn’t know what to expect. The Xbox 360 launched first which was also about the same time I joined n4g (which is how I found hiphop who lead me to the bitbag). Then PS3 games were being shown, and you couldn’t leave any positive message about the PS3 without being attacked by some rabid xbot on n4g. http://n4g.com/up/970/commentsPage-538.aspx http://n4g.com/up/970/commentsPage-537.aspx And there are a TON of those type of comments. But now that things have changed the PS3 fanboys are running rampant doing the same thing to 360 fanboys that was done to them. It has gotten bad, so bad I don’t got to the comments section anymore. But I’m the type of person that if you cast a stone at me, I’m going to send a rock slide after you, but it’s just a game which is why I don’t get why there are fanboys anyway.
I don’t know what the fuck happened, but when I first started the show it was playing at almost double the normal speed. Fucking Torrence and HipHop sounded like Alvin and the Chipmunks lol. Ok, I’ve listened to the first 5 minutes, and I’m about to close the fucking browser. NO ONE FUCKING CARES ABOUT THIS RETARDED PC GAMING IS DYING DEBATE! It was entertaining the first time, but that was like 6 months ago and the arguments haven’t changed at all. I’ll give you this WZ but the next time I hear that shit I’m turning it off for good. It’s not entertaining.
yeah just skip ahead a bit and tor just squashes it and moves on because trying to debate with HH just doesn’t work because he wont stay on the same page to lose a debate he will just hop back n forth from one thing to the next.
i could have swear that HHG was just trolling with that subject, he coulndt debate a single thing at all, he kept jumping from the subject like his life depended on it, Mario would have been so proud!
Thats one thing I hate.. you cant debate one point he will jump from point to point looking for an edge instead of staying and arguing on one point…. makes it easier to avoid being proven wrong imo…. but in the same case it makes people realize how little he has to back up some of these arguments….. To each his own tho… everyone has opinions… if we didnt this wouldnt be interesting.
@banned, On MW2 they give you the total number of people playing online, its that simple. My son was playing Friday afternoon & there were 1,003,000 people playing online. Look for yourself, thats a fact!
@Torrence, That crap@ss MW2 single player didn’t make sense at all & damn sure wasn’t better than MW1 single player. If my son wasn’t playing MW2 online I’d take that **** back!
@HipHop, If you load the Mass Effect 1 disc to your 360 the game runs good! Also, HipHop, if you think Mass Effect 1 is boring, wait till you play Heavy Rain! I beat Mass Effect 1 almost 7 times & its the 3rd greatest game I’ve ever played! Also, HipHop you cant comment on Mass Effect 1 at all if you’ve only played the game for an hour & didn’t even get off the Citadel, I’m glad Achievements can call you out. When I play a game & run my mouth, I give games at least 4 or 5 hours to prove itself. Don’t trash a game if you didn’t finish .000000002% of the game, that number is how much of Mass Effect 1 you’ve finished.
Good point, one more thing…. Don’t trash RTS’s and MMORPG’s till you have at least taken more than a few hours to understand the mechanics for the games. Games like Gow are fun but they are nowhere near as deep and re-playable as RTS’s & MMORPG’s are.
2 of the best QTE games are Dragon’s Lair and Space Ace. I would honestly advise you to pick up a copy of those…They are going really cheap. Greatest QTE games ever. Once you have played DL, I think you will open your eyes to QTE’s and appreciate them more.
If you call yourselves a gamer and do not own God Of War 3..please pm me your name as I would like to put you in my prayers.
rent beat return… thats what will happen to GoW3… pray for me?
then online games are the only ones worth buying? God what a sad day. What about online only games? Remember what you said when Alan wake and Splinter Cell comes out.
Splinter Cell is multiplayer … Alan Wake isnt… yes im what you call a smart gamer I dont blow money on a game that will be beat in 2 days and collecting dust for the rest of its life…Ive done that too much in the past its a waste of money….I didn’t buy Uncharted 1 because it was a waste of money as seen with the release of UC2 and 5 x more content… which I bought Alan Wake might get a buy if it has the re-playability like they say but thats to be determined. And yes ill buy online only games… I have shadowrun and socom that were both basically multiplayer games… Ill play all these games just wont buy them all….
“yes im what you call a smart gamer I dont blow money on a game that will be beat in 2 days and collecting dust for the rest of its life” quoted for the truth. i wish more people would understand this when people say they arent interested in buying a game they can beat in a few hours and then place it on there shelf of games only to bring it out again just to show off how good the game looks whenever they have company. games like FF, mass effect and plenty others i could justify spending 60 bucks on because i know im going to get my moneys worth. the last time i bought a GOW game was on the psp and i spent 40 bucks for something that took me 6 hours to beat…..great game and it really showcases off what the psp can do but never again.
Do you go to college? Do you have a job? I dont see how anybody can beat games in 2 days. The only game I ran through quick was Modern OverratedFare2.
@Banned… yeah ill be graduating with my degree in april… and yes I can still smash a game out in 1-2 days… and deff no longer then a week if I put time aside for it. The only exception are overly long games like fallout, mass effect etc…. but normal length games like Bayonetta, UC2, Ninja Gaiden, Gears, CoD, Bioschock etc I roll through in a few days… and I do it on hard….. just because you cant do this doesn’t mean I cant…. Im sure we are at totally different skill levels as well.
Yo Torrence this is what Im gonna say about the fanboy shit. PS3 fanboys are not arguing about whether the PS3 is the more powerful console. We are pissed that that they’re still developers who bring out multi-platform games that that do not perform the way they should. Im not saying the games themselves arent great but that time has passed. Same for 360 with the recent Alan Wake debacle, even though we all knew the PC was always gonna look better. Thats a different argument I guess. In general my point is that whenever theres been a PS3 exclusive that goes multi-platform, I would say 70-80% of the time, it has not necessarily degraded but diminished of what the original game could’ve have been no matter if I’m talkin about graphics or gameplay. Also I cant remember what u said about how when 360 exlusives arrive on the PS3 and 360 fans just stay quiet. Thats sort of not true and the fact that these games come to the other system a YEAR later, most people would probably already wouldnt care them. Like current sitaution with the GTA4 DlC, most people dont care about anymore, but Im sure alot of others would want to play them including me.
@Torrence Davis This is the last thing I’ll say about this. I don’t care for fanboys either. When I made the comments to you it’s because you were coming off like a fanboy to me. You sometimes sound like you are one of what you hate so much. I don’t know why PS3 fanboys hurt your feelings so much. That kinda makes you an Xbot in my book. But we will agree to disagree on this one and let it go. As far as Mike A. goes, I never had a problem with how he speaks. That’s stupid. I just think he’s a little arrogant. I’ve listened to many Warzones and listened to him try to force his opinions on others. He seems to think HIS opinions are fact. Other than that he’s great. HHG wanted to beat him up for a reason.
“As far as Mike A. goes, I just think he’s a little arrogant. I’ve listened to many Warzones and listened to him try to force his opinions on others. He seems to think HIS opinions are fact.” You just defined HHG whenever he talks about Pc gaming dying or the wii not being in the same competition as the ps3 and 360.
lets talk about games….. so that battlefield is looking awfully good…. going to buy it yes I am….how about you? God of War is also looking like lots of fun to …. so much gaming…. And that Metro 2033? yeah something like that.. that could be good too…. hmmm sooo many games and not time :/
Pre-ordered already? Why yes my good sir! Which Version? Limited Edition my good sir! Game on which i will use my $20 off on Amazon on? God of War 3 my good fucking sir!
haha yeah i was thinking about getting BF BC2 off of amazon as well for that $20 credit….the only problem is that i don’t know if i’ll actually like the game. i’ve seen hundreds of videos of it in action but i have yet got a chance to get a feel for the game….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBGjRTmfeWE I think I heard of this condition before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUb06iLjTKA
I love the WARZONE, so don’t get crazy.
HAHAHA you got me. I tried to correct myself but it was too late.
LMFAO! Props to RealZilla that was awesome! Torrence you know this will never go away now, don’t you…
LOL, who takes a jailbroken iphone to an Apple store, Bright move. TD
No matter what I tried it wouldn’t power on. So I figured if I couldn’t get it to power on, neither would they and then they wouldn’t see that it was Jailbroken. You must have not put 2+2 together.
How can someone who’s job is to play and review video games for a living say he’s not getting GOW 3 on day one, yet he plans on getting Just Cause 2 ? Please.
I’ve talked with Sony and GOW3 will be here on or before release date. I will open the package, repack it and ship it out to a reviewer who will do the review. This is like a second job to me. Even if it was the first and I was making 60k a year, I would not get GOW3 on day 1. There’s not enough time for me to beat the first 2 games.
You do know you could run through the 1st two games quickly. I beat the 1st one and am about 1/2 through the second one.
um…..congrats? i don’t understand why so many people are getting upset over 1 guy deciding that hes not going to pick up a game on day one? allot of us don’t have time to sit down and do a marathon run of the first to GOW games just so they can get ready for the 3rd…..is it really that hard to pick up?
Hey Torrence… You do know that Banned is UsCoMmAnDeR right? I find it rather humorous that he gets “banned” and so creates a dupe account with the username “Banned”.
this is the uscommander account. I changed my name in profile settings to banned because I thought it was funny. I posted a comment and it now lets me comment I dont know why. I didnt make a new account.
About the PS3 are the worst fanboys, just you wait for something like a Bungie game or Gears 2/3 to come to another console and this case the PS3. The guy who said Bioshock and other recent IPs had bad examples, just picture this, Halo 4 is multiplatform or Gears 3 or something in that caliber where 360 fanboys hurting their lungs saying its their best game ever and rub it into other fanboys finally coming to their competitor’s console. Or how about Mario or Zelda going muliplatform, I guarantee you that you will hate these people as much as the PS fanboys haha. These games have history with PS brand and the PS fanboys are the most outspoken guys since the PS1 days and there are so many butt hurt ex-Nintendo and Sega fanboys who wanted to get even so I know where are you coming from, you’re an ex-sega fanboy tor. btw that last comment was a joke
but really I know where you coming from they are annoying I agree but I can understand that they are butt hurt for buying their expensive PS3s on launch day for games that went multiplatfom.
A first party exclusive going multiplat is a reason for any owner to be a little pisst, whether it’s a Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo game. Seriously, iNFAMOUS, on 360? Halo on PS3? These are the games that set the systems apart, not 3rd party games.
I disagree with you here, exclusives wither they are first or third party sets the systems apart, these third party exclusives were only for the PS brand for the longest time and when people talked PS exclusives = MGS, FF, GTA, Tekken, Resident Evil, DMC…etc. People bought the PS3 for these games, not for the inferior first party at the time, nobody remembers the PS brand with their first party exclusives until this gen when Sony had no third parties to back them up they had finally invested their money for first party and let them make memorable experiences at last. Note: I know there were great first party exclusives associated with Sony in the past generations but they were no where near the exclusives Sony produced this gen.
Am I a fanboy if I prefer my 360 to my slim? I have 25 xbox games and 4 ps3 games. I hate the ps3 controller.
nope but I think you should sell your PS3, I have both PS3 and 360 but I balance my gaming between the two consoles, I have around 25-30 360 games and 35-40 games on PS3.
AHHHHH!!!! I feel like banging my head off a wall. God damn it HHG. Damn it, Damn it, Damn it. Torrence WTF!!! You say “ll always hate PS3 rigz more than any other.” and “PS3 rigz make petitions, cry when stuff goes multiplat, always compare graphics when they should know that the PS3 is a more powerful system, start smear campaigns, flood all the forums and N4g sites tearing apart any positive news for the xbox, etc, etc.” Were you not there at the Warzone? I know you were there as I heard your voice. I know you were there. YOU’RE WHOLE COMMENTS COMPLETELY REFERENCE HIPHOPGAMER. The entire 10 minutes of the Warzone is CLEAR evidence of HipHopGamers mentality and the perfect definition of a PS3 fanboy!!!! He keeps changing his argument to suit his own needs and doesn’t recognize FACTS and only bases HIS feelings as TRUTH!!! Yet you still have this guy as a BitBagger. WTF!!! And then as I am scrolling down the entries on the site, there is HHG’s review of Heavy Rain…WTF HipHopGamer!! You say Mass Effect is boring yet you give Heavy Rain a 10/10. Are you fucking serious!!! Heavy rain for the first 1 1/2 it is boring as hell!!! HHG is only giving Heavy Rain a 10/10 because he HYPED the shit out of the game and right now the game is not doing very well review wise in the eyes of the industry. It is currently sitting at around 8.8 out of 10 and with many comments stating a very boring beginning that will last over an hour because you getting to know each character, poor controls, and many plot holes. The setting and circumstances that pertain within the game are also “stolen” from certain big name movies. So where the industry is finding many Flaws with the game…HHG has managed to give this PS3 exclusive that he has been HYPING forever a 10/10 meanwhile stating that Mass Effect for the 360 is “boring” yet reviewed by the industry as one of the best RPG’s this gen and also stating that the texture pop-ins in NO WAY hamper the overall gameplay….yet HHG has yet to set foot off the Citadel thinks this 360/PC exclusive is “boring”. My GOD!!! HHG is a total PS3 fanboy and Torrence completely defines him with his comments above, yet the “journalist” is allowed to post and contribute on this site when Torrence has clearly stated how much he hates PS3 fanboys. Thus if Torrence hates PS3 fanboys, and HHG is clearly a PS3 fanboy…therefore Torrence must hate HipHopGamer. However, even though we can CLEARLY HEAR on the warzone Torrence’s frustrations with HHG’s views and comments, he continually allows HHG to post his BS and misleading views and ignorance on TheBitbag…. Sorry I just had to rant at the hypocrisy here.
u my friend are either the biggest xbot here the biggest HHG hater or just both of them.and no matter wich one it is ur still ridiculous.
Thanks for the reply…yet I don’t see you countering my points… I own both a PS3 and a 360 and enjoy them both. I don’t have to be a PS3 fanboy or a 360 fanboy to have enough brain capacity to see the inconsistencies going on here. If you want to curl up in the fetal position and ignore obvious inconsistencies then thats fine. Close your eyes, plug your ears and drown out the obvious so that your world is perfect in your own mind. I however will comment on either 360/PS3 fanboys making outlandish claim’s or the spread of FUD or misinformation, however on this site there is 1 person that is HORRENDOUS with the BS and that is HHG…who is clearly a SONY FANBOY and quoting Torrences own comments about how he feels about PS3 fanboys I made a VALID point. Did I hurt your feelings Ramses? I see you couldn’t rebuttal my observations except with calling me an xbot….so thanks for your input.
omg LOL ur and xbot plain and simple. i didnt rebuttal anything cuz there was no need to do it, ur a fanboy ranting about another fanboy(for gods sake we all know were HHG fanboyism tendencies for well over 78 WZ.) u needing to trash a sony exclusive just cuz u were offended that HHG found Mass effect 1 Boring is clearly ridiculous even more ridiculous when in the same 10-20mins of the WZ u can listen to HHG say he loves ME2. u really are a piece of work. (perfect sign of fanboyism) .he found it boring he didnt say it was a boring game -u can prove me wrong here i dont really remember his wording but i do think he said he found it boring not that it was a boring game- and i dont blame him after playing ME2 and trying to play ME1 of course he’s gonna find it boring at the beginning. btw ill quote myself:”ill never get tired of saying that even if u have all 3 consoles and a powerful PC it doesnt make u immune to the fanboy agenda.” ur clear proof of it.
Congratulations….you completely missed the POINT of my rant. I wasn’t offended by HHG saying he found ME1 boring. I am saying that he didn’t put enough time into ME1 and yet says it’s boring, yet gives Heavy Rain which has been stated time and time again, and if you’ve played would know, that it takes LONGER in Heavy Rain to start picking up story wise than it does in ME1. So if the complaint is that HHG finds ME1 boring with only played a couple of hours, then how can he give Heavy Rain a 10/10 saying that the story in MGS4 is not as good as the story in Heavy Rain??? You can call me whatever you want it means nothing to me. Like Torrence said, PS3 fanboys are by far worse than 360 fanboys. I would be more than happy to come down on some of the 360 fanboys on the BitBag…but they don’t do anything or say anything that is ignorant, or misleading, of flamebaiting, or anything remotely near what HHG does.
HHG has issues with using logic in his arguments or sticking to one point. He doesn’t whine and cry when a title goes multiplat, he doesn’t make up petitions to get games cancelled, he doesn’t flood comments and forums with non-sense. He’s not hoping that other systems fail. While his titles are seriously questionable, he creates those titles for heat. Like his last vidicle. The fucking title sucked, but if you listen to the vidicle, you can see where he was coming from. Now I told him if he changed the title and continue to post more reasonable titles, he’d KEEP more fans instead of losing them. That was my advice to him. Whether he uses it or not is up to him. He loves Sony and the PS3. There are times when even I feel like screaming, “FANBOY!!” But I truly believe he is a True Gamer at heart. I do prefer XBL over PSN. But when it comes to games, I play whatever is good on whatever system. I’m a fanboy of games…and Sega.
No one here has ever posed a convincing argument that I’m an xbot. People are wasting time an energy trying to prove I’m an xbot because I hate PS3 rigz more. That first year when it was just Xbox 360, I didn’t know about N4g or Neogaf. I didn’t use any gaming forums. After I got back into this I used whatever resources I could find. I learned that Xbots are assholes and PS3 rigz are fucking delusional as all get out. There IS a difference in how they act and what they do. I’ll make this clear one more time. I’ve been called both for different reasons. I think someone also called me a wii fanboy for defending that system at one point. I just don’t understand why anyone who’s not a fanboy would care that I hate PS3 rigz more. Just make me understand that. My reporting is unbiased. My disdain for fanboys IS biased. My love for video games is unbiased. My love for consoles operating GUI is biased. My controller preference goes to Xbox 360. I could go on for days but you guys still will call me what you want. Have fun!
TORRENCE DAVIS, You cannot be serious brotha. “There are times when even I feel like screaming, “FANBOY!!” But I truly believe he is a True Gamer at heart” Torrence i luv ya(not in that way) but your being NAIVE. How can u not see that Hiphopgamer is an ignorant,exacerbating Sony FANBOY!? The guy is always quick to whip out the uncharted 2/god of war 3 cards,and he Downplayed XBOX LIVE features on the Warzone!! We know HHG loves videogames(Like the rest of us) but he makes it Obvious that he is bias towards the sony brand, Plus he ignores the wii!! “He doesn’t whine and cry when a title goes multiplat, he doesn’t make up petitions to get games cancelled, he doesn’t flood comments and forums with non-sense.” That may be true but he bitches and when people criticize ps3 exclusives.He also damn near flooded the gaming news scene with Bullshit articles and misleading headlines that screams FANBOY. “He’s not hoping that other systems fail.” Torrence HHG wants PC GAMING to Die a miserable death!! You gotta put your foot down man, dont be a tool. Tell HHG if he puts up BS on bitbag.com it will be edited or taken down. You gotta enforce some kind of ultimatum on this guy Tor. HHG’S kind of journalism is not good for the industry,hes needs some serious COACHING. He is stuck in the Hood mentality and its just gonna hold him back from bigger and better things in this industry. HHG seems like a cool guy outside Internet, but he is an embarrassment to himself.
Torrence HHG wants PC GAMING to Die a miserable death!! Regardless of what he wants its already dead.
Oh look at this…It’s UsCoMmAnDeR with a typical N4G dupe account here on TheBitBag. Typical Sony Fanboy trait…just make a dupe account and bubble each Sony Fanboy up. Good thing there are no bubbles on this site…but I wouldn’t mind an ignore option.
@Torrence “He doesn’t whine and cry when a title goes multiplat” - Thats funny, I could have Sworn HHG was making HUGE issues about the FFXIII going multiplat AND stated that it was the 360 that was holding back the development and how now FFXIII will no longer be utilizing the PS3 power due to it becoming multiplat. “he doesn’t flood comments and forums with non-sense.” - Aside from the whole PC is dead…he however does use his articles and vidicles to do the job. Then when people respond, he then comments in the comment section either a) taking personal jabs at those that didn’t do it to him ie. making comments about guys girls riding on his 2 inch pole. And b) Reiterates on the forums the exact same thing he said in the vidicle with the ever so popular “lets take this on the warzone” comment that follows right after. “He’s not hoping that other systems fail” - Hello…PC again here. I am not saying you are an XBOT or a DROID I don’t care about either, its about the information that the XBOT or DROID relays to the public that I respond too…I am saying You hate PS3 fanboys, and HHG is clearly a PS3 fanboy, which does EXACTLY what you said PS3 fanboys do with the proof stated above, and yet you still have him post his “news” and “views” on your site. If you hate PS3 fanboys, and HHG is a PS3 fanboy… ergo you must hate HHG. If you don’t Hate HHG, then you must not hate PS3 fanboys. Now here is the kicker….If you still claim you hate PS3 fanboys, and HHG (as much as you would like to stick up for him) is a confirmed PS3 fanboy…there must be something that he is bringing that outweighs your hate for him….Which is hits. Plain and simple. By allowing HHG to post on your site, you can then claim that TheBitBag is a neutral site. Which I think is a brilliant tactic as it gives your site balance and gives both PS3 and 360 fanboys a reason to come to your site. That is the trade off. That is the reason why you still allow HHG to post on your site despite that you don’t like him because he is a typical PS3 Fanboy and shares all the qualities of a PS3 fanboy. He brings neutrality to TheBitBag and HITS. OR….like I stated above…you actually like HHG thus you don’t hate PS3 fanboys…..
@ man of the year hi dude, well no i havent played Heavy rain yet, im waiting for my friend to finish it so i can borrow his ps3 to play it so il just take your word for it for now. -”I wasn’t offended by HHG saying he found ME1 boring. I am saying that he didn’t put enough time into ME1 and yet says it’s boring, yet gives Heavy Rain which has been stated time and time again that it takes LONGER in Heavy Rain to start picking up story wise than it does in ME1.” different games dude, maybe to u r me its not boring but for him it was. and he said it too(and in the warzone u can hear i think brain saying he played ME2 first b4 ME1). some games u expect them to grab your attention from the get go some games u just roll with it. -”So if the complaint is that HHG finds ME1 boring with only played a couple of hours, then how can he give Heavy Rain a 10/10 saying that the story in MGS4 is not as good as the story in Heavy Rain???” u take it with a grain of salt(i think thats the saying) its HHG, remember that he plays games on easy and even if he hasnt played them till the end he thinks he can put a score to it. nuf said. -”You can call me whatever you want it means nothing to me. Like Torrence said, PS3 fanboys are by far worse than 360 fanboys. I would be more than happy to come down on some of the 360 fanboys on the BitBag…but they don’t do anything or say anything that is ignorant, or misleading, of flamebaiting, or anything remotely near what HHG does.” it depends i guess, to me you seem like a 360 fanboy thats just as worst(if not more) as HHG.
@Ramses Not sure why you are posting down here, our conversation was higher up. That way we can stay organised with our conversations. But, since you have responded to my comments higher up, down here, I will respond to you. “different games dude, maybe to u r me its not boring but for him it was. and he said it too(and in the warzone u can hear i think brain saying he played ME2 first b4 ME1). some games u expect them to grab your attention from the get go some games u just roll with it.” - HHG didn’t put enough time into the game. Period. He is basing his opinion off of VERY limited gameplay. Meanwhile, Heavy Rain is a strongly QTE driven game, and for the first hour + it’s all QTE. So you think that HHG finds an hour+ of boring QTE’s a much more entertaining game than where you are running and gunning within the first 30 minutes of ME1 AND see one of the best parts of the story ***SPOILER*** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NUT9FXacRw&NR=1 at the 7 minute mark. Remember, this is HHG we are talking about, and like you said, he plays his games on easy….so I am confident to say, that if he found the 1st hour of ME1 boring. There is NO WAY IN HELL he thought Heavy Rains 1st hour wasn’t boring. He is giving HR a score of 10/10 because it was a SOny Exclusive that he and the rest of the SONY bunch were yelling would be a HUGE game. “u take it with a grain of salt(i think thats the saying) its HHG, remember that he plays games on easy and even if he hasnt played them till the end he thinks he can put a score to it. nuf said.” - Take what with a grain of salt? His review? The review that is suppose to be unbiased so that the industry and the gamers will take his reviews seriously? If he chooses to be biased that’s fine, I will call FOUL on ANY biased review either from HHG or any “biased” site trying to pass themselves off as neutral. 360 or PS3. “it depends i guess, to me you seem like a 360 fanboy thats just as worst(if not more) as HHG.” - LOL really!!! 360 fanboys are worse than PS3 fanboys. LOL. Ok well I think Torrence was pretty good at defining what the differences are between the 2. I think PS3 fanboys are the worst as they also have a tendency to not research, proclaim their views and opinions as fact, disregard any kind of counter argument and won’t back up their claims or views which they proclaim as fact with any kind of source or link. Anyways I am not going to continue any further to your view on who is worse but you clearly don’t check out the news and comments located on N4G where the PS3 fanboys outnumber the 360 fanboys 8:1.
@ man of th year, this is why i dont argue with fanboys, my patience is going thin. -he played it for 1 hour found it boring but found ME2 awesome deal with it. so whatever shitty point your trying to make just stop pulling the me1 thing is getting really anoying. -he played it for 1 hour and got bored even with shoot outs and everything, in case u dont remeber ME1 gunz action isnt so hot at first, if u do find it hot whatever dude. like i said it depends on the person u found QTE for an hour boring maybe he dindt idk in case u havent been listening to WZ he was clearly excited about this game and maybe that made the first part more bearable , i got a friend who hated with rage Fallout 3 cuz he found the whole thing slow and boring. -to me theres no other story that beats MGS story, but hey there are ppl that find it bad or whatever, if he liked the story more than mgs whatever, thats a whole diff discussion. -LOL, let me clear it up for ya, i consider U an XBOT(fanboy) as much as HHG(fanboy) and ALL fanboys are THE SAME. whether or not u WANT to see the TRUTH is not my PROBLEM to me is clear as water.
Ok well your mentality as to Black and White with no grey area is seriously flawed. If you want to categorize me as a 360 fanboy because I point out the flaws in someone’s clear agenda then so be it. That is your choice. You are just being confrontational even without using anything to back up why you are…you are just using speculation as your reasoning to why HHG is right, and I must be a 360 fanboy because I point out that HHG’s review is clearly bias. And the reason I keep bringing up ME1 IS BECAUSE IN THE WARZONE HHG BRINGS IT UP. WTF is your problem. I am commenting on what he said in the warzone. Why is that a problem with you. Let me clear this up for you. Your ignorance is growing thin with me. I am CLEARLY pointing out HHG’s comments he made in this WARZONE and pointing out his clear allegiance with Sony with his review score of Heavy Rain with actual reasoning from comments he has made past and present. You are just being confrontational speculating what HHG thinks and feels, then thus calling me an Xbot. You have NO argument, only speculation. I am done with responding to you as you have nothing intelligent to add to this conversation other than opinion and speculation. If you cannot refute the comments that I made with something tangible, then you have no merit and thus your comments are mute. Back up your reasoning with something that can be used to refute my comments and prove me wrong or don’t respond. PERIOD.
@Man_Of_The_Year -”Ok well your mentality as to Black and White with no grey area is seriously flawed. If you want to categorize me as a 360 fanboy because I point out the flaws in someone’s clear agenda then so be it. That is your choice.” r u serious? do u think thats why im calling u a fanboy?im calling u a fanboy bcuz of your need to stoop to the level of a fanboy while arguing with one. u actually needed to trash an exclusive from a diff company to try to prove ur point wich is typical of fanboys. and not about calling HHG a fanboy. -”just using speculation as your reasoning to why HHG is right” i never once said HHG is right, just as ur speculating stuff im speculating as to the reasoning of some of the stuff he did that u posted. and really this is why i dont argue with fanboys such as yourself, your speculating as well about HHG agenda just as i am, when clearly a person who knows him better than us,torrence ,has said time and time again that he thinks hi is not a fanboy at heart(though we view it differently) im done with u.
We debate all the time. Thing is, people here don’t know what we talk about behind the scenes. If you guys knew what a representative from Bungie said to HHG, you would roll. Oh wait, I’ll paste the quote: I’m just posting to inform you that nowhere ever has Bungie said anything that is alleged in this video. Obviously as a developer you keep your eye on what’s going on around you; after all, we’re all gamers ourselves. The ‘news’ tagline of this story however is: ‘Bungie finally admits that they had to up the ante on the Halo franchise instead of using just the Halo brand name to sell game copies.’ You then go on to say ‘this is incredible news’. Your title also claims ‘Sony inspired bungie’s Halo Reach Development.’ To reiterate, we always look at other games almost on a subconscious level. We’re always playing the latest releases, just like any other gamers are. So in that way we’re naturally inspired simply by the everyday progress of the industry itself. Nowhere did we say we have been specifically ‘inspired’ by anything however. Frankly, HipHopGamer, if it were up to me i’d have you sued for making up nonsense like this and presenting it as news, but unfortunatley i doubt the brass at Bungie care enough to even bother. - Luke source: http://hiphopgamershow.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sony-inspired-bungies-halo?xg_source=activity&id=4517143%3ABlogPost%3A7074&page=1#comments My issue is his use of titles. Talked with him today about it. Because of his use of titles, now Bungie is upset. That quote is from Luke Smith who is a community manager over at Bungie. If he followed simple guidelines and got a quote before making the video, there would be no problems. THAT does not make him a fanboy. He goes equally crazy over xbox games as he does ps3. He just likes the ps3 games more. He LOVES sony more. So it comes out in everything he does. Fanboys hate. I don’t hear HHG hating.
Yeah see now things like this show HH has to be more careful with what he does b4 he begins to blackball himself in the industry.
“Frankly, HipHopGamer, if it were up to me i’d have you sued for making up nonsense like this and presenting it as news, but unfortunatley i doubt the brass at Bungie care enough to even bother.” woooow….i don’t even know what to say to that other than GG.
TORRENCE you are BLIND man, HHG is a total Sony fanboy and you know it, your not keeping it 100% real. yes he says there are games on the 360 he likes but HHG goes the extra mile to hype ps3 exclusives.He acts like hes on the sony payroll and gets ignorant and stubborn in his debates defending the ps3. I recognize that your NOT a xbot because you dont get emotional about the 360. HHG on the other gets to emotional about ps3 and makes himself look foolish in the process. Many times on the warzone when you describe the bullshit buffoonery on the web i say to myself Torrence is describing HipHopgamer! And what in the hell you mean “I don’t hear HHG hating”!? Come on Torrence Keep it real, HHG HATES ON Starcraft,The Sims,Diablo,etc like these games are meaningless crap! plus he Downplayed Xbox Live like it doesnt beat out the psn! The Bullshit you see on the web that you have vehemently described on the warzone is same shit HHG executes. HHG is a Sony fanboy and you know it, stop acting so naive man! He talks like he wears a sony badge of honor. Your covering up for him acting like hes not and its ridiculous. Don’t be a TOOL man.
so, did HHG learned his lesson?
No he won’t learn his lesson. He will eventually make a video that claims that MS or Bungie are out to get him.
I have to agree with MrMondayNight. Torrence, you are tip toeing around the obvious here. You even said so yourself HHG “LOVES” SONY more. “LOVES” as in “FEELINGS” for a machine and a company, which was one of your rants about the Sony Fanboy mentalities. Maybe this might help jolt your memory… http://www.thebitbag.com/2009/12/30/rantasaurus-1-its-just-a-piece-of-technology/ I also remember HHG talking shit because he was upset with what Gabe from Valve said about the PS3 which is on one of the warzones. Funny how you say in your rant “PS3 fanboys get HURT because of what Valve said about the PS3″ yet HHG also showed how he was upset about what Valve said about the PS3…. You are clearly protecting HHG. I mean come on…how many times in the Warzone do you or one of the other BitBagers say something anti-sony to provoke HHG just to hear HHG go off? Out of ALL the points you made that defines a Sony Fanboy, you are going to nitpick saying well HHG may be all 9 of these characteristics of a Sony Fanboy…but he is not point 10 so therefore he cannot be a Sony Fanboy? Come on. The weight of the evidence is over whelming, how much longer you going to try and ignore it? Or just refuse to either believe it, or admit it and stop protecting HHG. You know I gotcha! =)
WTF. HHG sure knows how to step on toes… These titles are going to bite him in the ass, no matter what his opinion might be, this needs to change. We really need to have a chat, Torrence. I’ll be on Skype tonight and tomorrow night, since I’m heading back to the states on Thursday.
wait a second, 8.8 out of ten means “the game is not doing very well review wise in the eyes of the industry” i am at a loss for words!
If you’re going to reference a quote, reference the WHOLE quote: ” right now the game is not doing very well review wise in the eyes of the industry. It is currently sitting at around 8.8 out of 10 and with many comments stating a very boring beginning that will last over an hour because you getting to know each character, poor controls, and many plot holes. The setting and circumstances that pertain within the game are also “stolen” from certain big name movies.” You have to actually READ the reasons as to WHY reviewers give the score they do for the games they review. Heavy rain was yelled at from the peaks of the high Sony Fanatics Heavens to be a AAA game. Graphics and revolution like gameplay..even HHG was pounding his chest saying how great this game will be. Maybe I should have rephrased the comment, I should have said “The game is not doing as well as Sony Fanboys and HHG hyped and proclaimed would review wise in the eyes of the industry” The industry has reviewed the game, and it is not the be all and end all of games. It sits at a 8.8 which is AA not the AAA that HHG would like you to believe. HHG even went on record saying the story in HR was better than that of MGS4….which is complete BS as there are plot holes in the HR story. I won’t spoil what they are but if you google, you will find. Also it is important to note that HR is a rated M for mature game. Since we know PS3 exclusives have a hard time selling on the PS3, having an M rated game within a niche genre getting reviews such as poor story, poor controls and the “been there seen that” feel of the story, an 8.8 doesn’t exactly help the cause of the game to sell to the masses when you have already segmented the possible user base by creating a niche title on a console that has a hard time selling exclusives with an M rating.
You sound just like that guy mld on youtube Take Gamerankings and Metacrtic reviews and shove them up your ass.
Boo Hoo UsCoMmAnDeR is upset because I use FACTS and RESEARCH to determine if I am going to invest my money in a product before I buy… Well I will take the reviews from sites I trust over your own Fanboyism opinions anyday of the year…so you can stick that up your ass.
I will take the opinions and reviews before I invest me money into a game from those within the industry over your pathetic Sony fanboy delusional opinions.. So you can go shove that up your ass. Boo Hoo Man_Of_The_Year uses reviews to help assist with making decisions…boo hoo, why can’t he see that the PS3 only has AAA games but the media is biased against Sony thats why I get upset about reviews..boo hoo MS is buying reviews…boo hoo. Banned/UsCoMmAnDeR you’re pathetic.
@Man of the year You should’ve known better if you are a fan of the bitbag, did you remember how many times Torrence pointed out how biased and wrong some of the major sites when it comes to reviews? second, you should learn there are fanboys who review games and according to your logic why should we accept a fanboy’s review like HHG? if you are going by metacritic then you are accepting all the biased and fanboy sites that reviewed the games? And that being said the game is averaging at 8.9 at Metcritic and 90 at gamerrankings. I just want you to tell me. 1- did you play Heavy Rain? 2- What is the the huge flaw in the game that takes from it a 0.1 from being 9.0? 3- Is 8.9 a horrible score? really what is the one thing thats gonna make people turned off by the game?
First you have to understand…or comprehend that a score is only a number to help give the consumer a visual reference on an accepted scale. You do understand this right. Assuming that you do, as this is pretty basic I will proceed with the following. Everyone has their own acceptance scale. Mine is anything under an 8 I won’t buy…UNLESS the WRITTEN review indicates something that caters to my needs within the game and thus takes presidency over the numeric score. ie. Aliens Vs. Predator. This game is getting low reviews. below 7′s in somecases. However in every review I have read, they all say the same thing. If you are a fan of the series and movies, you will love this game. Thus since I am a fan of the AvP series and movies (I own them all) This game is a purchase for me as the WRITTEN review takes presidency over the numeric score. Ofcourse there will be bias in the reviews…Look at HHG’s reviews for HR. And Also notice that the reviews that gave HR a 10/10 are mostly French sites, who were given permission to review the game earlier than N/A. However you are neglecting to understand the whole principle of Metacritic and Gamerankings. They are AVERAGES of the numeric score from the sites that reviewed the game. When you take an average, then you are finding a common medium between the biasness. You will get bias media giving 10′s and you will get bias media giving it 7′s or even 6′s. Some nitpick more than others. This is why, Meta and Gamer give you an average. It gives you an idea on a numeric scale how well the game was reviewed. You can’t just go to 1` site and accept what they say as truth, as it’s only 1 opinion. However if you have 40 sites saying the same thing, then the opinion is more close to truth, as the masses have a shared opinion. I hope we are all on the same page so far. Now at the time when I wrote about HR’s status, it was at 8.8. Since more reviews are coming in, OFCOURSE the rating will shift. Since we live in the NOW, we can only take a snapshot of what something is AT THAT EXACT TIME. Thus since I first posted that HR was at an 8.8, new reviews have come in that increased the score .1. 1. Did I buy Heavy Rain? – No. I will wait till Sony drops the price of their exclusives which history has shown will take place 5-7 months after the initial release. However that doesn’t prevent me from reading reviews of the game. 2. What is the the huge flaw in the game that takes from it a 0.1 from being 9.0? – You will have to READ the REVIEWS. A MAJOR flaw to me may not be a major FLAW to you. However what the MAJORITY of the reviews I have read, the MAJOR flaws to me so far are A) Poor controls B) Plot Holes C) A story that has been pieced together from other great movies, thus giving that “been there seen that” feel. 3. Is 8.9 a horrible score? – Nope, it’s a great score for a AA game. And I never said it was a horrible score, re-read my WHOLE quote. However again you are only looking at the numeric value. You need to READ the reviews. There is a reason as to why points were deducted and those reasons could, like stated in comment 2, be Major to you or not. Bottom line…YOU HAVE TO READ actual reviews and not just use 1 review to base an opinion but rather a collection of opinions to base your opinion off of, which is where sites like Metacritic and Gamerankings help ASSIST the consumer in getting an idea if the game is worth that persons investment to purchase the game, or rent it, or wait till the price drops. I hope this helped educate you, I guess knowledge is not all that common afterall.
wow same shit different warzone, i think what you need to remember is fanboys are only as bad as what you have personally experienced, i work in a game shop and a 360 owner walks past the heavy rain posters and says that looks fukin shit, now he doesnt own a ps3 so it has to be shit, where i work in the uk 360 fans are the worst.i own all systems and i hate halo, love gears, but because of this im called a fanboy, its pathetic, i dont even discuss that much with customers now.One customer was in the store telling a load of people how shit the ps3 was, i asked if he had ever played one, he said no, this is insane, blind loyalty, i wonder if he even knows why he made that statement. mass effect 2 was amazing and ive just finished heavy rain and this game is simply amazing, mature game, not for everyone, but this is something fresh. MW2 is horrible, after 2 years in developement its basically an expansion pack, ive noticed alot of cheats on both systems, plus i pay for xbox live and i would rather not, it would mean an extra game a year for me. people are allowed opinions good and bad about each system, negative opinions doesnt mean your a fanboy, i dont like home and dont like the arcade room,am i a fan boy ? no just human with preferences. Ive never known such a bullshit generation with this console war.I read less and less online reviews and articles as most people have agendas now.
Peoples opinion of games they’ve never played doesn’t bother me. I’ve heard Xbots say that the PS3 has no games. I combatted the shit out of that statement the first year of the PS3. They are fools. And some of them are still saying ‘PS3 has no games.’ I can point out 5 awesome games from year one just to shut them up. People walking into gamestop that talk like that are def fanboys. That’s the Xbot mentality I was talking about. They talk shit and run away. They have no facts to back their claims. They are just complete assholes. Seriously though, not liking a game that you never played is just one of the issues with fanboys.
yo T, why aren’t you getting GOW3? I’m just curious as hell why not? do you know something we don’t? lol when you were talking about LP2 and how sick the giant monsters and scale was i would think from what we’ve seen of GOW3 so far the scale and greatness has been shown… whats up?
You got to understand TD was born in a area of anti, he is a decenter.
It’s okay to be a sega fanboy but not a ps3 or 360 fanboy WTF. You guys are taking this shit way to serious mainly Torrence he can’t help but to call a ps3 fanboy out. Y’all just way to serious I know why hhg post articles tha way he do he probably gets a laugh out of you xbots. Just calm down people it’s only video games geez.
Dude then stop going to n4g then don’t pay attenion to the fanboys geez. I remeber when Torrence said that he is not going to visit n4g website but he goes there everyday. Yeah and oakland raiders fans are way worst than browns fans WTF. The worst fanboy shit doesn’t make any sense a fanboy is a fanboy get over guys they exist only you guys on this site take it to extreme.
Being a fan of a console is not a bad thing people are fans of alot of things. The problem here is that some people on this just don’t want to admit that they are a fanboy.
The other Problem is Torrence is afraid to admit HHG is a Fanboy.
I have listened to every Warzone for the last few years and Its sad to see how the show has gone down hill. You have all become the opposite of what the site was preaching in the beginning. You know HHG better than I do so I understand when you say that he is a true gamer at heart. But its gone to the point now where I cant listen to him anymore because he just doesn’t care about being a non-biased journalist with an open mind. He has turned into an angry Fanboy and if he cant find the time to finish a game before ranting about it (The Citadel) then he might as well be spending his time on N4G. You also had a bloke talk about FFXIII a couple of weeks back and he was only 20 hours in. I have now found the Destructoid Podcasts more entertaining but the Warzone will always be in my weekly routine. You do a professional job by keeping the show running despite most members spending a month or two getting used to your burps and toilet humor. The adlibbing doesn’t work anymore because it just turns into a verbal shootout. Bring back some structure and fan service instead of Batmaning every MF like I am sure you will do to this rant. But I know that you will see this constructively. Hip hop keep the passion and calm down on the sexual metaphors. Big up to you all because I know that the only thing that I would want to do after a long week is sleep, instead of entertaining the gamers for free. Bring the fun back:)
That “bloke” was me and I thought I apologized about the hype on FFXIII before I knew it was complete crap. If not, then I’m sorry that I hyped it so much and let you all down. I mean, the way the game played out around the 20th hour seemed to have made it look like the last boss fight, but I was wrong. I should’ve put in more time into that game and I learned my lesson. Hope things around here gets better and that you will keep coming back to The Bitbag
No worries Drakol, it was an exclusive at the time and you did the exact opposite by lowering my expectations for the game. Because of that I did more research to try and fuel my denial that the game was bad. Now that more reviews are popping up around the net I am pleased that people are now realizing that there is more to the game, and FFXIII-2 only starts around 40hours in. FFXII received exactly the same western reception in 2007 and it was one of the most enjoyable games that I played. I remember Torr having a debate about if it was alright to stop playing a 100 hour RPG and review it or finish it to gain creditability. But who has the time? Keep up the good work. Peace out.
@Man of the year, please be serious and realistic, Tor and HHG talking all the time with eachother behind the scenes, they are friends and Torrence IS TELLING you HHG is no fanboy, do you really think Tor is afraid of calling him a fanboy? LMAO it’s a term used for videogames for god’s sake, I call my boys fanboys all the time, are they going to fight me/sue me or do something over a stupid and small term in life? Do you really think Tor is not gonna talk to HHG anymore and say to him “you cheated on me, you traitor, why?WHY? you promised that you will never be a fanboy I aint gonna link your vidicles to my site ever again” CMON SON.
You need to SERIOUSLY RE-READ the ENTIRE conversation. There is MORE THAN ENOUGH PROOF to indicate HHG is a PS3 Fanboy. My point, which seems to be OVER YOUR HEAD is that Tor says he hates PS3 fanboys…however even though we ALL know HHG is a fanboy, then Tor cannot hate all PS3 fanboys. He doesn’t have to say it…we understand that Tor likes HHG and if Tor calls him a SONY fanboy, then, because of his quote “I hate all PS3 fanboys” cannot be true. It’s simple algebra here bro…do I have to educate you down here as well? Variable A) Torrence hates PS3 fanboys. Variable B) HHG is a Sony Fanboy Variable C) Torrence hates HHG Variable D) Torrence Likes HHG Variable E) ??? So A) Torrence hates PS3 fanboys + B) HHG is a Sony Fanboy = C) Torrence hates HHG therefor this sentence must be true. OR A) Torrence hates PS3 fanboys + B) HHG is a Sony Fanboy = D) Torrence likes HHG Therefor this cannot be True as we know HHG IS a Sony Fanboy as per the over whelming proof. OR A) Torrence hates PS3 fanboys + D) Torrence likes HHG = C) HHG is NOT a Sony Fanboy However this is not true as we are changing the Variables. As you can see, we have a paradox here. How can Torrence Like HHG if he hates Sony Fanboys? Thus the answer must be E) A)Torrence hates PS3 fanboys + B) Torrence likes HHG = E) ??? Now what is E??? Since we are stuck in a paradox were A+B=/=C but rather E then this must be an error…or in ENGLISH…HYPOCRISY. Torrence is a Hypocrite when it comes to HHG. EVERYONE and their grandma’s know HHG is a Sony Fanboy, and Torrence has stated he hates Sony Fanboys but yet likes HHG and refuses to say he is a Sony Fanboy even when the evidence is clearly over whelming to turn your head away. Basic math for Basic_Information.
I wonder if The Bitbag would be a better place if I never talked about or addressed rigz again? I never change the show based on one persons opinion. If you were sitting in a room with me talking about video games, there would probably be burping and toilet humor. The Warzone is a no holds barred podcast. It’s no different than hanging out with your friends chatting and arguing about games. The new secret podcast I’m working on will follow that structure too, but will appeal to an older audience more than the younger. Still, everyone will love it. It really doesn’t matter if I thought HHG was a fanboy or not. The show must go on. I thought this last show was great.
The show was great. Keep up the good work.
Yea i thought the warzone was good overall despite the aggravating first couple of minutes heheh.
Yea the warzone was good overall despite the aggravating first couple of minutes heheh.
@Torrence, This last show was great. Don’t change a thing & dont run this site like the fanboys at IGN or N4G: say something against the PS3 & you’re banned on IGN, do the same on N4G the community of SONY Supper fans get together & take bubbles away. Man_Of_The_Year would get his @ss banned hard because he has an opinion & speaks on facts & fanboys cant handle that & hurl insults. I’m going to state my opinion without using vulgarity’s to insult anyone in the proscess. Also, I think the majority of this audience is older anyway, but I’m game for more podcasts. And HipHop is a fanboy of SONY, its cool, I still think HipHop is the g.o.a.t. because he keep things going. But he needs to stop talking about Mass Effect & PC gaming because he knows nothing about either!
@360Mirror, Ive listened to every single Warzone ever made except Warzone 6,7,or 8 only because Torrence lost it & the Warzone is still great. The Warzone took a dip when Torrence would cut the arguments short or someone would jump in & say “ohh we dont need to bring that up”, BS. So, I guess you do have a point 360Mirror, I dont totally disagree with you. Like talking sales, they dont talk sales so feeling wont get hurt, this is the efin WARZONE! People get hurt in WAR, let your opinions fly! Just have as many facts as you can, period. @Torrence, The only adult show you need to start is the belching during the podcast, mute button?
I will agree with @360 mirror …? or something like that…. I did like the show a lot more when you had structure… not a ton of structure but when you took control for at least the first half hour on your topics… and allowed the fans to jump in to comment etc…. and not just a constant barrage of Bitbag members blurting out things and jumping in. I don’t know… go back to the warzones in the 30s/40s and you’ll hear and feel the difference. Hell I don’t even think you had anyone comment in this show except mostly for the staff arguing back and forth. Thats my personal opinion though.. the show was still good but to me it just doesn’t feel the same anymore.
I’m actually working to get back to that every week. They are still jumping in but I’ll just crack the whip some more. I hate it when people jump in.
Yea the jumping in is really bad and it turns the discussion into a mess. People gotta be more civil.
Yeah I know your trying to… its not you tho… its the people in the show who have to do it… shouldn’t have to rely on you… Jumping in is fine… just annoying when they do it for a whole show….maybe most of the people need to start using push to talk more so at least if they want to talk they need to put in the effort to hold down the button… then we wont need to hear background noise etc every 5 minutes….should be a requirement honestly… would make it easier for you guys in the long run… everyone doesn’t need an open mic… primarily you and HH should really be the only open mics constant… you are the show hosts. A simple push to talk for most people would probably be sufficient….the show is still good its just gone off its path from what I have seen…. but thats just my personal opinion…. some people seem to mind and some people don’t…. its just a question of whats the majority.
“maybe most of the people need to start using push to talk more so at least if they want to talk they need to put in the effort to hold down the button…” Hell Yeah, that should be mandatory
Like I said you guys take this shit way to serious. Talking about peoples feelings getting hurt over video games wow some of you guys need to step ya game up. Calm down everyone have a beer and enjoy your games. Don’t let tha fanboyness consume you.
Wow i leave the Bitbag due to various projects i have going on at work and i come back to a 134+ comment war! I haven’t seen it this live since me and LordVon was debating….. I see everything in here from Trolls to people who need clothes to wipe the brown off their noses…. All im going to say is that Torrence if you feel that the fanboy house of praise that is Sony is more vocal and organized (so to say) than any other systems fanboys i have no problem with that. Your right no one could alter your view if that’s what you believe. I always look at it this way there are no greater fanboys in the WORLD than a Sony fanboy and an Apple fanboy…. Some of the most dedicated cults in existence. To focus on them in particular though, eh, IMO is just a waste of time. Number 1 you give these 12 year olds who thrive in useless internet dribble in hope of being noticed and reason to engage with their otherwise infinite free time hope and more importantly acknowledgment. Number 2 forget the fact that it makes you look biased, screw that, if your going to get on fanboys get on them all. Don’t be the Fox news of fanboys, keep it real and get them all. Oh and yeah seriously i missed this show but Bro! you gotta get the structure back. How about each bitbagger say what he has to say based on his agenda and then before the next person goes there’s some allotted time for elaboration. Where the community questions get asked and other bitbaggers get to ask their colleagues questions. Then at the END of the HHG power hour or what have you there is just free talk, where you have the random debate and or questions. Without structure sometimes im listening and im just like “Whoa, WTF what we talking about this again?” Other than that im off back, to the batcave that is working on something super, duper secret….. Oh an Mike_A Hold ya head up my dude i see you! Oh and ICE fuck you…..Just cause i know you wont take it seriously