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		<title>By: mboojigga</title>
		<link>http://www.thebitbag.com/2009/08/23/video-game-warzone-56/comment-page-2/#comment-10757</link>
		<dc:creator>mboojigga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was your source going to be for numbers OUTSIDE the U.S.?</description>
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		<title>By: commander</title>
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		<dc:creator>commander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a chance in hell. NPDs are the only source you can trust today.</description>
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		<title>By: mboojigga</title>
		<link>http://www.thebitbag.com/2009/08/23/video-game-warzone-56/comment-page-2/#comment-10737</link>
		<dc:creator>mboojigga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was your source for the numbers going to be,  VgCharts?</description>
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		<title>By: OOG</title>
		<link>http://www.thebitbag.com/2009/08/23/video-game-warzone-56/comment-page-2/#comment-10730</link>
		<dc:creator>OOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its pretty obvious odst wont sell more then MW2... Halos draw is its multiplayer which people can already have on halo 3 with expansion packs.... so if they are not interested in the odst single player... no real reason to buy the game....MW2 on the other hand is an all new multiplayer experience for the series... which means it will draw people interested in single and multiplayer.

Very stupid argument have some sense next time.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its pretty obvious odst wont sell more then MW2&#8230; Halos draw is its multiplayer which people can already have on halo 3 with expansion packs&#8230;. so if they are not interested in the odst single player&#8230; no real reason to buy the game&#8230;.MW2 on the other hand is an all new multiplayer experience for the series&#8230; which means it will draw people interested in single and multiplayer.</p>
<p>Very stupid argument have some sense next time&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Atticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LordVonPS3

&quot;If you canâ€™t be bothered to play it, why should a reviewer? Developers shouldnâ€™t waste time working on something that only a few people will ever go back to. At the very least, they shouldnâ€™t waste MY time. &quot;

The goal of a person who performs game reviews (or any kind of review for that matter) is not to have fun.  It is to play the game, analyze its strengths and weaknesses, and ultimately, provide a recommendation to the public as to whether they should consider buying the game.  If the reviewer happens to have fun while playing the game, that is a fortunate side benefit. The review is for the benefit of the public, not the reviewer. 

&quot;Lets take Ikaruga, Jet Set Willy 2, R-Type and Ghouls nâ€™ Ghosts as examples. It is possible to complete all these games in well under the 7 hours that many CoD4 reviewers complained about, but only if youâ€™ve got the skills to do it â€“ and by the way, most of you donâ€™t. That doesnâ€™t mean you wonâ€™t try again. After all, you really should be able to finish it in 1 hour, right?   The majority of videogames today require more time than skill and thatâ€™s a shame.&quot;

If a reviewer doesn&#039;t have the skill to finish a particular game in a timely fashion, then perhaps he or she is not best suited to provide a review for that particular genre.  You wouldn&#039;t care what your grandmother thought of Call of Duty 4, would you? But she might be able to offer some insight regarding Wii Sports from an older person&#039;s perspective, right? 

At the end of the day, the review is supposed to inform.  If the reviewer doesn&#039;t play the whole game, in some instances, that individual is not providing a full picture. Imagine what the reviews would have been for the Sixth Sense if all the critics walked out 3/4 of the way through the movie?

Again, the caveat to this is that certain games, such as JRPGs, are almost impossible to finish within a week.  Especially if writing game reviews is not your primary occupation.  But for a game that offers between 5 and 15 hours of single-player gameplay, there is no reason why a competent gamer could not finish the game once and write a review.  It may not be fun, especially if it is a shitty game, but that is the life of a critic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LordVonPS3</p>
<p>&#8220;If you canâ€™t be bothered to play it, why should a reviewer? Developers shouldnâ€™t waste time working on something that only a few people will ever go back to. At the very least, they shouldnâ€™t waste MY time. &#8221;</p>
<p>The goal of a person who performs game reviews (or any kind of review for that matter) is not to have fun.  It is to play the game, analyze its strengths and weaknesses, and ultimately, provide a recommendation to the public as to whether they should consider buying the game.  If the reviewer happens to have fun while playing the game, that is a fortunate side benefit. The review is for the benefit of the public, not the reviewer. </p>
<p>&#8220;Lets take Ikaruga, Jet Set Willy 2, R-Type and Ghouls nâ€™ Ghosts as examples. It is possible to complete all these games in well under the 7 hours that many CoD4 reviewers complained about, but only if youâ€™ve got the skills to do it â€“ and by the way, most of you donâ€™t. That doesnâ€™t mean you wonâ€™t try again. After all, you really should be able to finish it in 1 hour, right?   The majority of videogames today require more time than skill and thatâ€™s a shame.&#8221;</p>
<p>If a reviewer doesn&#8217;t have the skill to finish a particular game in a timely fashion, then perhaps he or she is not best suited to provide a review for that particular genre.  You wouldn&#8217;t care what your grandmother thought of Call of Duty 4, would you? But she might be able to offer some insight regarding Wii Sports from an older person&#8217;s perspective, right? </p>
<p>At the end of the day, the review is supposed to inform.  If the reviewer doesn&#8217;t play the whole game, in some instances, that individual is not providing a full picture. Imagine what the reviews would have been for the Sixth Sense if all the critics walked out 3/4 of the way through the movie?</p>
<p>Again, the caveat to this is that certain games, such as JRPGs, are almost impossible to finish within a week.  Especially if writing game reviews is not your primary occupation.  But for a game that offers between 5 and 15 hours of single-player gameplay, there is no reason why a competent gamer could not finish the game once and write a review.  It may not be fun, especially if it is a shitty game, but that is the life of a critic.</p>
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		<title>By: otherZinc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only said US because NPD doesn&#039;t count pack-ins. Other software charts count pack-in games, that&#039;s why Uncharted sold over a million, without pack-ins it wouldn&#039;t make it.

Go with the truth &amp; I&#039;ll bet you all day. I wont go with MW2 vs Halo 3:ODST because anything can happen there. However, I&#039;ll be more than happy to bet you MW2 wont come close to Halo 3 numbers on the 360 only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only said US because NPD doesn&#8217;t count pack-ins. Other software charts count pack-in games, that&#8217;s why Uncharted sold over a million, without pack-ins it wouldn&#8217;t make it.</p>
<p>Go with the truth &amp; I&#8217;ll bet you all day. I wont go with MW2 vs Halo 3:ODST because anything can happen there. However, I&#8217;ll be more than happy to bet you MW2 wont come close to Halo 3 numbers on the 360 only.</p>
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		<title>By: commander</title>
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		<dc:creator>commander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See you guys love to talk but none of you are willing to stand by your beliefs. I was going to offer anyone that challenge me a $10 card for PSN or XBL if they were right. Also why did you switch it up to only US Market. Nobody compares games by only US Numbers. I know why you did it and it was a nice trick. Ill give you that 360 completely owns North America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See you guys love to talk but none of you are willing to stand by your beliefs. I was going to offer anyone that challenge me a $10 card for PSN or XBL if they were right. Also why did you switch it up to only US Market. Nobody compares games by only US Numbers. I know why you did it and it was a nice trick. Ill give you that 360 completely owns North America.</p>
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		<title>By: Da_Dios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da_Dios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Gaiden was either too hard for you or too frustrating for you. I loved Gaiden 2 only hated that god forsaken camera. I&#039;m picking it up for the PS3 just so i can play online with some friends and with the new camera issue fixed. The other two i agree too long and not intriguing enough.

Nah Ghouls and Ghosts had me pissed the fuck off playing it to what i thought was presumably the end just to have to do it again!!! Me and my brother use to race to see who could really beat the game faster.

You want games that require skill try Battletoads or Mega Man. Fuck i hated Mega Man shit had no passwords and energy was hard to come by. I shouldn&#039;t even have to talk about battletoads... More recently i would have to say the first Halo on legendary was challenging and Uncharted on Crushing... Fuckin hate crushing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Gaiden was either too hard for you or too frustrating for you. I loved Gaiden 2 only hated that god forsaken camera. I&#8217;m picking it up for the PS3 just so i can play online with some friends and with the new camera issue fixed. The other two i agree too long and not intriguing enough.</p>
<p>Nah Ghouls and Ghosts had me pissed the fuck off playing it to what i thought was presumably the end just to have to do it again!!! Me and my brother use to race to see who could really beat the game faster.</p>
<p>You want games that require skill try Battletoads or Mega Man. Fuck i hated Mega Man shit had no passwords and energy was hard to come by. I shouldn&#8217;t even have to talk about battletoads&#8230; More recently i would have to say the first Halo on legendary was challenging and Uncharted on Crushing&#8230; Fuckin hate crushing.</p>
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		<title>By: otherZinc</title>
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		<dc:creator>otherZinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@commander,

Love your attitude (nohomo). I wont take that ODST vs MW2, however, I believe ODST will prevail in the end.

In the US Market, where we can accurately track software sales &amp; not pack-ins. Halo 3:ODST will outsell the top 3 PS3 exclusives by the end of December 09. You take your pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@commander,</p>
<p>Love your attitude (nohomo). I wont take that ODST vs MW2, however, I believe ODST will prevail in the end.</p>
<p>In the US Market, where we can accurately track software sales &amp; not pack-ins. Halo 3:ODST will outsell the top 3 PS3 exclusives by the end of December 09. You take your pick.</p>
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		<title>By: mboojigga</title>
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		<dc:creator>mboojigga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why?  Here it is your bitching online here and complaining about actual discussions of games etc, now you pull out a BS challenge that this won&#039;t outsell that?  What makes you post funny though is that you actually put in your post and call out ODST against 3 titles.  When you think about it I can put a combination of games together and say Halo 3 10 million outsold Resistance 1&amp;2 and Uncharted :-).  As I said in another post will I be PWNING myself when I purchase all the titles you mention?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why?  Here it is your bitching online here and complaining about actual discussions of games etc, now you pull out a BS challenge that this won&#8217;t outsell that?  What makes you post funny though is that you actually put in your post and call out ODST against 3 titles.  When you think about it I can put a combination of games together and say Halo 3 10 million outsold Resistance 1&amp;2 and Uncharted <img src='http://www.thebitbag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  As I said in another post will I be PWNING myself when I purchase all the titles you mention?</p>
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