On this episode we talk about the impact that the PS3 will make at $299. Will it change the industry? Will they pass Microsoft and Nintendo and become number 1? Who knows, we sure as hell don’t, but there are plenty of opinions being tossed around this episode. Also on the show:
* Does anyone think Sony will come in first this gen? (Torrence)
* Miramasa is a must have Wii title (Torrence)
* Hiphopgamer won’t review 360 games (Torrence)
* Console failure rates (Weapon X)
* APB may be coming to PS3 (Hiphopgamer)
* Just Dance coming for the Wii (Hiphopgamer)
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FIRST !!!! TREY 4 LYFE
Lets not do that again
First is so….. let’s just say lame….
Stopped listening a few weeks back but I said I had to listen this week to see what the Xbox defense force aka Torrence would have to say about the price drop. He did not disappoint. Just some quick ones. 1) Saying everyone that wanted Halo 3 already owns a 360 is crazy but it wasn’t crazy a few shows back to say that everyone that wanted FFXIII already has a PS3? 2) This hypothetical couple Torrence calls Ma and Pa Kettle know nothing of features. All they know are games. Okay, I can safely say that my mother and father are probably similiar to this couple because they knew nothing of features in any console they ever bought me. But they didn’t know games either. All they knew is that I wanted that console and that’s what they were getting me. 3) Disregarding numbers or facts because it disproves your point is really lame. You can choose to not believe Sony cut its manufacturing costs but you can’t then turn around and demand someone give you numbers to support their position. What’s the point if you’ll only disregard those numbers because it doesn’t support what you said. 4) Gamers like your son (teenagers) do, for the majority, only care about games. Gamers in their 20s, 30s, etc looks at ancillary features. And blu-ray is a major feature. Show’s improving but someone really has to step up and call Torrence on some of this stuff.
What I said was that the majority of people bought PS3′s for MGS4 and FFXIII. These games were announced before launch and people wanted those games more than anything…oh and Gran Turismo 5. The statement about “everyone who wanted Halo 3 already owns a 360″ was in regards to Halo 3 not selling systems anymore. I never said people would stop buying the PS3 for FF or MGS4. Nice spin. Okay since everyone believes this poll to be true, I guess the PS3 really is a 10% failure rate. My bad.
Torrence, You are a F*CKIN’ TRIP!!! He nailed you;and as usual, you just can’t admit it. You are soooo lucky that I don’t be available to be on the show; cause I would own your a$$ “live” (pun intended).
“What I said was that the majority of people bought PS3’s for MGS4 and FFXIII. These games were announced before launch and people wanted those games more than anything…oh and Gran Turismo 5.” That’s not what you said but whatever. And I wasn’t talking about that poll on failure rate. I was talking about the 70% reduction of manufacturing costs Sony is claiming and you saying that you don’t believe it. And yeah, out of a 5k sample size the poll can’t be 100% accurate but what poll is? Instead of even addressing the fact that out of that many people more than half had their console break you chose to spin it and discredit the poll and any of its numbers. Xbox defense force in full effect. I understand the premise of the show and you taking the pro MS slant against HHG’s pro Sony slant but every now and then I wish you’d drop the act and speak in non-partisan terms. I swear hearing you discuss MS on anything is like hearing a Republican Senator during the Bush administration dance around the mistakes of the Pres. Be honest once and awhile.
How dare you imply that Tor is an undercover xbot with a see-thru sheet over his head. Everyone knows that having multiple consoles automatically disqualifies you as being a potential bot. Right Tor? (LOL)
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Loading………………….. I’ll start by saying (without listening to the podcast yet), there is no way PS3 comes close to catching the 360. The 360 has 1 hell of a bullpen, full of stoppers: #1 Closer: Halo 3:ODST #2 Closer: Halo: Reach #3 Closer: GTA: DLC Middle Relief #1 Fable 3 #2 Mass Effect #3 Left 4 Dead 2 #4 Splinter Cell:Conviction #5 Forza 3 #6 Alan Wake See, in the end, this group of proven Closers & Middle Relief stoppers will halt any system price cut. In the end, its all about the games. Loading is done, going to wash the ride & listen to Warzone 56!
Oh and the 360 will continue to sale. It is so bad you have poeple all over the internet actually qouting a date that by July 10, 2010 is when it will officially pass it worldwide lol. So on 10 July mark your calenders, Blackberry’s, Iphone’s because the date is official. What is also funny is that people are asking what is how will MS respond. They already have with the games. It is also ironic how people say the PS3 didn’t need a price drop it was affordable and it was doing just fine. Yes it has been doing just fine but all of a sudden MS needs to respond when Sony was the one needing to do the response?
DLC, LOL! has the xbox had 1 AAA game this year????
What exactly do you consider AAA and why does it matter if it has AAA or not?
AAA is a game with a 90 or higher average rating. xbox exclusive lineup has sucked ass this year. but all i keep hearing is sale talk, YOU CAN’T PLAY SALES ONLY GAMES!
Talk about contradiction. You people live by sales but then you go by the review ratings? Reviews do not matter for games at the end of the day just like they don’t matter for movies. It is amusing how people try and find so many excuses not to like a system this gen. Doesn’t sales indicate what consumers like? It doesn’t matter to companies all that much if the score is high or low. They care about it getting in the consumers hands. You and many others hold too much weight towards reviews. Games I consider AAA are the ones I purchase and play. Just like movies I don’t go by a reviewers decision. If I have the capability to find out myself if I am going to enjoy a game that would be the route I go. Missing out on too many games if you think just because a game is doesn’t make a certain review percentage. That is a joke.
Oh yeah, YOU CAN PLAY REVIEWS ONLY GAMES. See what I did there
How are a couple of games going to stop the PS3 price cut THIS holiday season?
GTA: DLC? NO NO NO… SAY IT LIKE YOU WANT IT MAN! IT’S “GTA: THE BALAD OF GAY TONY” BE SPECIFIC MAN >:) IF THE FIRST ONE HAD FULL FRONTAL NUDITY, WHO KNOWS WHAT THIS ONE WILL HAVE, PRISON BREAK OUT I BET -.- O.o
otherZinc dude just stop okay damn u are the biggest fanboy i have even seen just stop wit the bullshit we dont know what will happen in the next 7 years of the ps3 lifecycle but if sony is pushing this ten year plan MS just cant last that long they will bring out another console cus 360 it cant compete that long using dvd. STFU AND GET A PS3 AND STOP THIS FANBOY MADNESS
So explain to us how it will “not last that long”? Based on what? What the Xbox did? Again, it wasn’t supposed to be in the position it is in today, before the slim was announced, before the PS3 was released. EVERYONE had the mindset that by (insert year here) the PS3 would be in a different position than what it is TODAY. From fanboys to analyst like Pachter expected all the consoles to be in a different position based on I dare say “history” from what we knew before. This was before the economic meltdown, Obama becoming President, Kutaragi retiring, “Killzone 2 will save the PS3, Resistance 2 will save the PS3, Infamous will save the PS3, the previous price drops will save the PS3, and the favorite one to rule them all, Blu Ray will save the PS3 and DLC AND, AND downloadable movies will be irrelavant becuase you can’t get Dolby HD and Blu Ray quality. So Bucnasty, please explain to us how the 360 will not last as long as the PS3 even though it has done all the things people DOUBTED it would do in the last 3 years?
@Bucnasty, Its a my prediction. When the new systems come out, guess what, the race is over! No company is counting that 10 year ****. I do resent being called a fanboy, I play everything, have been playing everything since 1976. Listen to your comment,”M$ cant last that long” how do you know. I really don’t care, its your prediction, we’ll see who’s right at the end of the day. Also, I gave you reasons for the 360 to stay strong, all reasons were proven games with exception of Alan Wake, the rest are dominators. See, I gave clear reasons to support my hypothesis, your reasons are assumptions. @HipHop, Here you go with this Weapon X type of momentum. SONY has momentum because of a price drop? No! I can say M$ won this Lipzig event because they announced the only game that’s going to sell over a million copies: Fable 3. You know, the game that kill LBP, that was Fable 2, part 3 is next!
@mikemadden, SONY hasn’t had a AAA game either. However M$ did have the best selling RTS console game ever: Halo Wars. Does that count as AAA, since it is the best selling in its class.
have you been living under your RROD xbox all year? KILLZONE2 and MLB THE SHOW 09 both AAA exclusives. im not going to talk about the psn games and DLC. if halo wars is the best game this year for xbox then thats sad, cause it was released in february.
really? PS3 hasnt had a AAA title yet… look at inFAMOUS, soon to come and looking good Uncharted 2 and there is a supposed rumor of Gran Turismo 5 coming this year as well. Ofcourse Xbox got its game with Mass Effect 2, ODST and Forza 3 which are looking good as well…
So the whole argument is based on WHEN the game was released in the year? Killzone 2 came out in February. Halo Wars came out in March and 2 million people downloaded the demo in 5 days on Live. Which do you think is more important for companies, sales or review scores. Which one effects their bottom line? Which one is going to give a better indication? Mikemadden, you brought sales into the discussion in the first place and your best position in this debate is because what is considered a AAA based on review scores and the release date in the year? Let me bring something into the debate. Why do most sites and consumers praise the 360 for all it has accomplished even with RROD? Why does a show like X-Play that has voting by consumers choose the 360(which were votes from actual consumers) say the 360 is the best out of the three systems? A DVD system. I repeat, A DVD SYSTEM continues to be the most played console this gen over BR and Wii’s motion controller. I am sure you individually and others play the other systems more and prefer the other systems. All this DOUBT that continues to come from people that ironically continue to talk about a system they say they don’t care about is the most TALKED about system out of their mouths. If you are happy with the “reiview scores” for the PS3 that is cool and great. But how difficult is it for you to just enjoy it without having to take it personal of all things a game console? I have both the 360 and PS3. They both serve a purpose in my home with my family. I have to be honest with you, I am not a consumer that has experienced RROD or YLOD or any type of problems with either system in the last 3 years. I accepted what each system does and don’t regret either purchase. I do play my 360 more than my PS3 with games because I buy all my multiplatforms for the 360 and that is due to friends and Live and preference for the controller. I enjoy my PS3 and don’t feel depressed and accept and know that I have to wait until the exclusives I purchase for it release when they do. I am too busy playing all the games I am interested in than to worry about if I am playing a game that is considered by the community to be AAA or not. Doesn’t make my purchase any more Elite than one of the lowest selling prasied games this year. I know what both consoles offer. I can afford Live. I can afford BR movies. I can buy any game I want. I have the best of both worlds.
so u saying nintendo and MS dont care that the ps2 is steal selling 100k almost every month you guys really think they dont care lol.u guys arre a bunch of FUCKING FANBOYS just stop i said the 360 wont last that long becuz its a very unreliable product and do u think they are going to still be using dvd till 2015 do u really think that. so how far do u think digital distribution is going to go okay 360 got games on demand cool but a 120 gig hard drive u think thats going to last 2015 dont think so.then if they come out with a bigger hard drive that will cost more money they should have had it to were u can put ur own HD in.dvd will become a dying product and bluray will become the standard. im no sony fanboy nor 360 fanboy if yall want to get yall ass whoop in any game hit me up. xboxlive:bucnasty1987 PSN:bucnasty231
“so u saying nintendo and MS dont care that the ps2 is steal selling 100k almost every month you guys really think they dont care lol” No I don’t believe they give two shits about PS2. WTF does that have to do with what we are talking about? “just stop i said the 360 wont last that long becuz its a very unreliable product and do u think they are going to still be using dvd till 2015 do u really think that?” No you said it was due to DVD. We are just now hearing you say it won’t last due to reliablity. News flash Sparky, that is not true. Content, Content, Content is what keeps a system alive. It is what kept the PS2 alive as long as it has. You have millions of people PAYING to play games on Live. You have millions of gamers paying to play one game of WOW on the PC. Let me ask you a question. Why do you think standalone Blu-Ray players with Netflix actually sell more than standalones without the feature? You are naive if you think streaming and downloadble content is irrelevant or will be in the future when it has been continuing to be popular. As for the rest of your post about the hardrive. You can delete content you no longer need and when you stream netflix(soon 1080p streaming is coming) nothing is on your hardrive. You can qoute whatever about changing out hardrives in the PS3, they still get full. 120gig drives are fine and if they offer larger drives then cool. Trying to downplay the 360 just because of the drive is a very weak argument. You still haven’t proved anything. Even though you say you are not a fanboy all you did was recite what fanboys have stated year over year and the truth is it doesn’t stick.
Yow Torence man you got good taste in movie, Lord of the ring trilogy is the best movies ever created, District 9 best movie of the year so far, Equilibrium is the most underrated movie. Any way good job.
Equilibrium is good. I have all of Christian Bale’s movies.
You sense offender:)
hmmmmmm equilabrium was good but the ending was ass… Seriously the movie built up a nice climax and then went stale at the end.
a those ps2 sales could possibly be 360 wii or even ps3 sales. im so glad i didnt spend my hard earned money on 360 thank god it was a gift becuz its such an unrealiable product till this day I still wont pay 200 bucks for it becuz i know it will have problems u guys are being fooled into buying a shady product. now it does have great content no doubt but it isnt enough. if ps3 were breakin left and right i would not buy that either dont get it twisted. tell me what banging content u think they will kept pusing out halo and gears fable they keep bringing out the same games. tell me one new ip on disc that is coming to 360 for the rest of the year.okay i have to pay for xbox live to get netflix which i also have to pay for and my internet connection and how much more do u think i have to pay to stream 1080p content tell me that cuz its for damn sure not going to be free so i wonder how much more will that will be.
In the past week my friends 360 rrod and his PS3 got the yellow light. All he can play now are PSP games and whatever he can find via emulation.
AAAAAHHHHH I see. You want these things but you either can’t afford it or choose not to pay for it. That is what your whole complaint is. Gotcha. This is no different than buying a car that requires gas or riding the city bus. That is life. Deal with it. Just this year alone millions more have CHOSE to purchase Live. They also CHOSE and might CHOOSE to purchase Netflix. I don’t even get your complaint about Netflix. It isn’t that expensive and guess what? I get to watch all the instant videos available that I can care less is in 1080p or not AND(here is the kicker) rent all the 1080p BR movies and tv shows that are available in BR. So much better than spending 30 bucks for one game vs spending 23 bucks a month for all those options. See I get the best of both worlds.
I only buy the few movies I know I am going to watch more than once like Transformers 2 and Star Trek. I couldn’t care less to watch the Time Travelers Wife or other types of movies that doesn’t have explosions or heavy action going on. That is my preference. Trying to assume everyone wants Dolby HD and 1080p is as ignorant as assuming everyone wants a projection in their homes and apartments. This is why people have enjoyed Netflix before it was offered on the 360 or available to stream to the PS3. Which is funny because both the PS3 and 360 offer downloadable movies that are not in 1080p but they seem to be doing great in those departments too.
lmao so Torrence answer me this, when your a person that knows about 3 to 5 friends like myself which have gotten through mass amounts of RROD failures from 3 to 6 times and then you go online and you google the “RROD” and you see all these articles and you check the forums about these complaints and even with the new jasper chips people are still filing complaints and even with the recent updates people “new xbox experience” have gotten the RROD, dont you really think the failure rate is much higher cuz from my perspective I took what you said to be like you thought the rate was lower and not even 54% when everyone who has had a friend knows that at some point they have gotten it…. and I know the recent survey might have been bull.. but can I really get your side of the story cuz im kinda curious lol if you think this shit is not an epidemic with what I stated at the beginning and middle…. oohh and can I really get your side on what you thought about the recent GamesonSmash podcast (Blade206, DCI, Worsecase)on what they was talking about how its like over with what Sony has to offer and your receiving more with the $299 deal for the PS3 then the rumored $299 Elite…..
Blade has delusions of grandeur and doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I was chatting with him today and he said, “It’s a wrap” “The arcade won’t sell” “No one would buy a 360 with gears 2 bundle” and had NOTHING to support his claims. All he could say was, “Let’s wait til the Holidays”. I’m not afraid to tell it like it is. PS3 fanboys think this is the end for Xbox and Wii even. Just because they got the price drop they wanted, they think Sony is gonna steamroll the competition. It’s hilarious. I don’t think it’s 54%. I have a ton of friends with Xbox 360′s and only about 30% have RROD including myself. The system that was repaired gets played all the time and stays on all night long. No problems since it’s been repaired. I refuse to believe people got even 3 RROD on the same system. It’s all hogwash. That poll was from 5000 random subscribers to Game Informer. How can you use that as fact? Do you believe that PS3 is 10% failure rate too? Because that was also on the poll. Waiting for your answer.
No in my opinion i dont think any of those are true and for me im a bit gullible at times b/c theres always a time where you hear and see from so many different sources that you dont know what to believe. Ofcourse I hear alot of these podcast for example and theres also many different so called “FACTS” and “OPINIONS” that get tossed around as well that also feed to the flame, but overall I don’t really think the poll was correct and things just need to be left alone in the dark and if somethings broke just fix it and people really need to move along and stop writing some of these articles b/c it makes this industry look bad in terms of the community which in-bodies it from the kids to the adults and “gamers” in general…. so that’s all i got to say bro.
The way you ragged on the Arcade sku, who in their right mind would buy a 360 with no HDD?
BLAH BLAH BLAH!!! I THOUGHT YOU SAID “THERE ISN’T GOING TO BE A $100 PRICE DROP” AND IT WOULDN’T MAKE SENSE FOR SONY TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT. JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU KNOW -_- I’M STILL PUZZLED AS TO WHY PEOPLE KEEP BUYING A SYSTEM THAT HAS A HIGH FAILURE RATE. PEOPLE KEEP SAYING IT’S THE GAMES IT’S LIKE CRACK. MAN FUCK THAT, WHAT GOOD IS A GAME IF YOU AIN’T GOT A RELIABLE SYSTEM TO PLAY IT ON. IF PEOPLE WANT AN END TO THE RROD OR E74 ERROR OR WHATEVER THE DISC SCATCHING,SEND MICROSOFT A STRONG MESSAGE “WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH IT”. BUT NO IT’S SEEMS THAT PEOPLE ENJOY GETTING PUMPED IN THE ASS AND COME BACK FOR MORE. IT’S RIDICULOUS. EVEN THOUGH I DON’T LIKE THE WII ANY MORE, I GOT TO APPLAUD NINTENDO FOR MAKING A SYSTEM THAT DOES WHAT IT’S SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A FAILURE RATE THAT IS ALMOST NON EXISTANT. IN MY OPINION, KNOWING ABOUT AND HAVING WITNESSED THE XB360 FAILURE ON MORE THAN 2 OCCASIONS(INCLUDING THIS EVENT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB69Ra2TJd4 ) NO AMOUNT OF MASS EFFECT, ALAN WAKE, GEARS, HALO, FABLE, FORZA, RPG, XBL, MGS5(EXCL), GTA5(EXCL),FFVS14(EXCL) WILL MAKE ME DIG DEEP INTO MY POCKET AND SAY I WANT A 360. I’M NOT GOING TO BUY A BRAND NEW CAR KNOWING THAT ISN’T GOING TO LAST. THE DREAMCAST OR SEGA DIDN’T DESERVE WHAT THEY GOT BUT I KNOW ONE COMPANY THAT CERTAINLY DOES UNTIL IT GETS IT’S ACT TOGETHER AND PROPERLY ADDRESS THE ISSUES. I THINK IT’S TIME THAT THE CONSUMERS DISCIPLINED THE CORPORATION. IF THE $100 PRICE DROP IS THE RESULT OF PEOPLE MOANING ABOUT THE CONSOLE BEING TOO EXPENSIVE, THEN THAT IS SOMETHING PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN, NOW THE BALL ISN’T IN SONY’S CORNER, IT’S NOW UP TO THOSE THAT KEPT COMPLANING ABOUT THE PRICE. THIS GOES TO ACTIVISION TOO KINGPIN IS DONE. -.- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2w2l1JTs4&feature=related IT’S BEEN A LONG ROAD LOL
Simple, Not everyone has experience RROD. No matter how many articles, opinions, percentages you see not everyone has exprienced RROD. It shows in the purchase of games, console sales, and usability. How come developers have not stopped supporting the system if the RROD is as bad as they say it is? They know it isn’t as bad and with a little common sense you can see it isn’t factual with all these claims like 54% failure rates. The sales indicate that RROD has not been as bad as the claims go. I couldn’t care less how many friends some one has and all of them have 10 RRODs, THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE POPULATION OF GAMERS NO MATTER HOW MANY DIGITS YOU PUT IN YOUR SENTENCE THAT YOU OR YOUR FRIEND HAS EXPERIENCED. The system would not see an increase of sales Year over Year if the “image” of the system was affected by RROD.
-”Not everyone has experience RROD” WELL OBVIOUSLY NOT OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE 100% FAILURE -”How come developers have not stopped supporting the system if the RROD is as bad as they say it is?” CAUSE PEOPLE KEEP COMING BACK FOR MORE :O I JUST FIND IT ODD -”The sales indicate that RROD has not been as bad as the claims go” WELL YOU CAN THANK MICROSOFT MARKETING TEAM FOR ADVERTISING A “FLAWLESS” MACHINE -”I couldn’t care less how many friends some one has and all of them have 10 RRODs, THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE POPULATION OF GAMERS NO MATTER HOW MANY DIGITS YOU PUT IN YOUR SENTENCE THAT YOU OR YOUR FRIEND HAS EXPERIENCED.” WELL I COULDN’T CARE LESS EITHER ABOUT HOW MANY HOW MANY 360 ARE SOLD, AT THE END OF THE DAY IT’S STILL A FLAWED PRODUCT. LETS JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE
First i would say this Tor, I would niether credit/discredit the game informer poll. Here’s why, yes it was 5000 random G.I. subscribers it’s called a Simple Random Sampling therefore yes the results are subject to error. Error stemming from that same randomness and in this case the inability to account one vote as one vote and not some douche who voted not once, twice but thrice just in some childish passion to spread bad press on his archnemesis of all consoles THE 360! Back to reality. Although the sampling doesn’t reflect the entire populace or the whole picture on hardware failure with those polled consoles it DOES however reflect in some sense how faulty the design of ALL three consoles are. I say all three because there have been industry studies in which in all cases all three Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft have been over the 5% industry standard failure rate. How can anyone say you can’t use that poll because it can be a bunch a sony fanboys repeat voting or performing other so called scams to defame microsoft or that it’s the god honest truth from 5000 randomly polled people. No one can dispute it, not you, not I therefore you recognize it for what it is and understand that yes it’s not a direct reflection but that the reality in more cases than none lay somewhere in the middle. I had a 360 mines RRoD on me TWICE, yep. I never brought another one the first time it happened i had to pay to get it fixed after it happened again i said screw it whatever. That was back in 2007 mind you. I’m sorry i did the same shit with my PS2, fucking DVD drive crapped out on me giving me disc read errors on BRAND NEW GAMES! That happened back on 2001 at which point i didn’t buy my PS2 again until 2002 after my beloved Dreamcast stopped recieving mainstream suuport. So the idea of 360′s failing on people three times is NOT complete hogwash and again it shouldn’t also be looked at as the norm. For every lie there IS a HINT of truth, you should know that Tor.
Torrence, you know that the 360′s were sent in for repair weren’t really repaired but replaced. My 360 gave out 3 times and every time my system was replaced and not repaired. The way I know that, is because I checked the model and serial numbers each time I received my 360′s back. Now, I don’t know if that’s the case for everyone but in mine they were replaced. Your situation may be different. I would like to hear from you a subject you touched on in the Davis report. You made a statement that if your console died multiple times, would you go to next console. Then if that one died, would you go to next one and so on. Then you said something along the lines of would you stop gaming. So are you trying to tell me that, we should just accept that our consoles die and just act like it didn’t happen? My 360 died 3 times, so should I just forget that that happened and keep supporting them? I shouldn’t have to worry about my consoles dying every time I turn them on. I would appreciate it if you could clarify this for me. We can discuss it anywhere. I just want to hear your full side of the statement you made. I’m not trying to diss or anything like that, I just want the full story. PSN: BadGuy304 Skype: AYO30001
I don’t understand how people can say the ps3 will dominate the xbox because of the price drop. I’m sure the ps3 willell alot more than it did but people have to realize that the xbox will sell as well. Also the momentum arguement is retarded, the price drop is the only thing going for the ps3 so 1 thing doesn’t make momentum . Multiple thing must happen so today if 3 aaa titles were released and the price drop then that would be something but that’s not happening . Hhg is a fanboy and racist toward “whitey” “xbox”
Please guys, stop saying bad things about the Xbox so that I don’t have to listen to Torrence spend the first hour of the Warzone defending the Xbox again and hand picking comments from N4G from PS3 fanboys. I want to hear gaming discussions, not fanboys defending their console.
sixamp is killing me lol
Tor you said you got all of the consoles because you didn’t want to miss out on any great games. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you don’t have very much time to play games or you don’t alot enough time to really play games. Now if that’s the case why must you own every great game? To me you sound more like a collector of games.
See that’s just it, I don’t have to own every game. Everyone is flipping shit over Batman but I’m not gonna touch it. This business doesn’t allow me to play games as much as I want. It’s something that I just accept.
I think that is the case with most of us. Just no time. Sometimes Ill have a weekend lock-in and finish games that have been sitting on the shelf for more than a Decade. But then I find myself wondering…. what happened to the days when I could not turn the darn thing off and just wanted to see what happened next and before I knew it I’m driving to work with no sleep. The games became boring. Maybe as we get older we get over stimulated with new things. Maybe the games became to expensive to make that they had to justify the steep price tag with endless hours of game play. I still find I play ICO more than the others because I know I’m playing a movie that lasts 2 hours then its complete. Same with gears. The last time I was addicted to a game was Mass Effect and Gears 2. Mainly for the narrative. Games like Elder Scrolls and Half life are like that fat book you always want to get back into but find you always start at the beginning again and again because of the long intervals in-between. I think there is a fine line between play and work. That’s why there are so many people on-line the whole time instead of playing. We all want the next best thing. We are all trying to find that ultimate stimulation. But that odd 15hours of stimulation takes 3 years to make. So we collect just incase the thing will stimulate. Anyway that’s enough of Dr Phil. GAME ON.
HIP HOP Keep the belt. It is your Trade Mark.
Could someone please tell me why the emotion chip is so expensive for Sony to place in there new slim. Can the PS3 play PS1 games without the Emotion chip. I have a huge library of PS1 and PS2 games but when the new Gen started I Sold my PS2 and Saved for my PS3 and was looking forward to playing all my games on one system. O.K. it was going to cost me 6500Rand 650 Dollars. The first 60gig with the Emotion chip got snapped up overnight but I didn’t mind not being an early adaptor I still needed to save up If I wanted to play games like Heavenly Sword. Then Sony did the dumbest move ever. They made it so that people like me either bye another PS2 and an XBOX360 for the same price or bye a PS3 and watch my PS1 PS2 Collection just sit and collect dust. So I was impatient and was blown away by the next Gen graphics. So I jumped straight into Gears of War and have not looked back. Now its 2 years down the line. I think its time I sold all my PS1 and PS2 games and invested in a Hi Def telly. I’m sorry Sony. I live in a developing country. The PS2 is 50 dollars cheaper than a 360Arcade. I waited and waited and then I heard about the slim and told everybody at work and the first question I got was, “Can I play my PS2 games on it?” NO. We do not have viable online-gaming either so to get updates like the new XBOX dashboard from the Metallica game is a treat. So if Sony want to do emulators through on line updates then its just not viable for our demographic. I think I should have realised what the Company was all about when Ken or Phil told us to work 2 jobs if we wanted to be able to afford there new Blue Ray player. Cheers Sony
I suppose allot of us tend to take the PS2 fore-granted. But 9 years down and its only selling for half the original price. Maybe I should just wait until after Xmas because I’m sure its going to be killed off next year and the price will come down. I cant see myself ever selling Okami, Ico and Final fantasy 7 to 12
what is the big secret with “weapon x”, unless he is a criminal on the run, no one could give a shit who he is. Talk about an over inflated ego.
do not speak ill of weapon x
i will say whatever i want, but thank you for your concern and trying to tell someone who you do not know what they should or shouldn’t do.
Tor if anything why are we talking about it now, I know it’s big news but why not wait until the first week of the slim? We can say all this shit right it’s all opinion we don’t know what’s gonna happen. When we read the news we hear people saying oh they want this or they gonna buy a PS3 cause they have been waiting on that price drop with the way people are talking the PS3 should sale well in it’s first week of the slim but look at the factors the economy is like okay and not all that better than before, the PS3′s line-up is good coming up for the holiday.So sony has a chance to win it but it’s not gonna be easy Far as the Wii I don’t really see a point in buying it doesn’t have much to satisfy me as a hardcore gamer compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3 so the wii can wait for me in my opinion
@Kingpin2K7, Any reason for the “all caps text”? that’s a difficult read. Anyway, I’ve sent back a few 360′s, never paying for 1 of them, not ONE! & one 360 was 2 months over the 3 year warranty. A 10 day inconvenience is a small price to pay for fantastic games that my son & I played all summer long. Listen to the recent DLB Podcast about a PS3 warranty gone south, from a playstation fanboy, this is something to be pissed about: its at the beginning of DLB’s 2 most recent podcasts. I would not have a 360 today if I had to pay for 1 repair & I have 2 360′s: my 10 year old has the Halo Edition, I have the Elite, & soon I’ll buy an Elite for my 7 year old daughter that plays Halo’s, Ninja Gaiden 2, Banjo Kazooie, Viva, Bolt, & Up, I’m tired of her using my ****!
WHAT IF FFXIII PS3 exclusive had a SIXAXIS airship controls or a specific sixaxis chocobo RACER? Then it’s announced as a multiplatform game. Does the 360 have a similar sixaxis system? There are plenty of things Square could’ve changed (PS3 ver.)after the game went multi. j/s
Also … True Gamers play and buy all consoles, including the Wii.
Yeah but im broke and my dad just took all my shit, cause he’s gay and I’m moving back to Washington and i gotta replace all that shit it will be while and so my true gamer status might take a while before I obtain it again
Since the beginning of the warzone hiphopgamershow always brought up what if the ps3 and xbox debuted at the same time things would be different . Well they didn’t and the prices were different. I can’t stand the what if Sony did this  excuse. What if the rrod didn’t happen what if the dreamcast didn’t die what if blah blah blah. Stop the what if things were different because they don’t bring anything new to the talk. Halo 3 is king of xbox period. I like halo 3 but love modern warfare  , that’s what I play so anyone saying people bought halo3 to hold them over and then dumped halo3 is foolish. The slim at $300 is a nice price but a system that was $400 and after 3 years just reached $300 doesn’t found that great to me as a gamer. I think the console prices are outragouse .for the first month or so I believe the slim will sell well but it won’t do wii nbers or ds numbers and I dontthink the people buying the slim at launch are new ps3 owners but rather people with fat ps3′s who want to upgrade just like they do with cell phones. As for games con I don’t look at it as Sony ” winning ” because nintendo and Microsoft never said they were going to be showing off anything . Sony is the one who promoted shit and said they had shot to show off, so it’s hard fore to say Sony won when they had no competition.it’s not like E3 where all 3 console makers had shows. I’m shocked that we haven’t heard from nintendo about anything in such a long time. The xbox elite dropping to $299 won’t help MS in anyway because the system was already priced at $299. So  when the average consumer goes to the store and sees the xbox at $299 now and then sees price dropped 100 they won’t really see the difference between the pro and the elite because there’s not that much of a difference . When u see the slim u see the $100 price from and a redesign. With the xbox you see a black system that looks the same as the  pro. Aa for the feature argument  I believe features can only be judged by the individual consumer. I don’t need bluray and I don’t need wifi so those features are a lost cause for me, but streaming netflix  is a major feature that draws me in and that’s the feature that got my coworker to but the xbox when he already has the ps3. He’s a caual gamer and was fed into the hype of bluray  and the uber ps3. But it didn’t deliver why was hyped for him. He then bought a xbox pro online and has been having a ball withSince the beginning of the warzone hiphopgamershow always brought up what if the ps3 and xbox debuted at the same time things would be different . Well they didn’t and the prices were different. I can’t stand the what if Sony did this  excuse. What if the rrod didn’t happen what if the dreamcast didn’t die what if blah blah blah. Stop the what if things were different because they don’t bring anything new to the talk. Halo 3 is king of xbox period. I like halo 3 but love modern warfare  , that’s what I play so anyone saying people bought halo3 to hold them over and then dumped halo3 is foolish. The slim at $300 is a nice price but a system that was $400 and after 3 years just reached $300 doesn’t found that great to me as a gamer. I think the console prices are outragouse .for the first month or so I believe the slim will sell well but it won’t do wii nbers or ds numbers and I dontthink the people buying the slim at launch are new ps3 owners but rather people with fat ps3′s who want to upgrade just like they do with cell phones. As for games con I don’t look at it as Sony ” winning ” because nintendo and Microsoft never said they were going to be showing off anything . Sony is the one who promoted shit and said they had shot to show off, so it’s hard fore to say Sony won when they had no competition.it’s not like E3 where all 3 console makers had shows. I’m shocked that we haven’t heard from nintendo about anything in such a long time. The xbox elite dropping to $299 won’t help MS in anyway because the system was already priced at $299. So  when the average consumer goes to the store and sees the xbox at $299 now and then sees price dropped 100 they won’t really see the difference between the pro and the elite because there’s not that much of a difference . When u see the slim u see the $100 price from and a redesign. With the xbox you see a black system that looks the same as the  pro. Aa for the feature argument  I believe features can only be judged by the individual consumer. I don’t need bluray and I don’t need wifi so those features are a lost cause for me, but streaming netflix  is a major feature that draws me in and that’s the feature that got my coworker to but the xbox when he already has the ps3. He’s a caual gamer and was fed into the hype of bluray  and the uber ps3. But it didn’t deliver why was hyped for him. He then bought a xbox pro online and has been having a ball with netflix and for some reason he loves  the fact lastfm is coming to xbox. So like I said feautures can only be judged by the individual who is purchasing the console. netflix and for some reason he loves  the fact lastfm is coming to xbox. So like I said feautures can only be judged by the individual who is purchasing the console.
Whoops that’s the itouch’s fault and the shitty wifi in Harlem
LOL Either you wardriving or you just have some shitty WiFi. Other than that i agree with your view on the microscoft “response”.
I don’t get the focuse about what if scenarios with this gen. No one cared to entertain the what if scenario when it came to the PS2 releasing 18 months before the Xbox. Notice how the roles have reversed? It was a smart move for Sony to have launched 18 months prior but it wasn’t for the MS? So it is a crutch for Sony? Everyone but Sony is saying it is a cruch when Sony boosted about the capabilities of the PS3 and why they are not concern and they stated the famous qoute “Next Gen starts when we say it does” Everyone remember or haven’t seen this article from Torrence in Sept 08. Pretty good read here. http://www.thebitbag.com/2008/09/25/the-next-generation-starts-when-3rd-party-devs-start-fully-utilizing-the-ps3/ (the link was good enough. No need to copy the whole article) Why do people like HHG and his comment give what if scenarios and excuses why Sony is where they are at today? I mean we look in one eye with MS and rightfully so blame MS for RROD but when it comes to Sony some how developing the Cell, adding BR, development difficulties are everyone elses fault BUT Sony’s.
One other thing. Why is momentum only mention when it comes to Sony?
I cant wait till the npds are out for the ps3 slim. It will be great when we can all laugh at the two biggest gaming zealots on here(mboojigga, otherZinc.) U dumbass xbots have been owned by the slim and sound really desperate. Dont even start with naming the 360 lineup for 2009/2010. U dont even have a chance against Sony lineup. PS3 SLIM+ UNCHARTED 2+ GRAN TURISMO 5= SONYS HOLIDAY. This battle is only between SONY VS MS. FUCK THE WII. WE ALL KNOW WII OWNERS ARE HOMOS AND LIKE PLUGGING EACH OTHER IN THE ASS WITH THEIR WII REMOTE.
Why do you keep saying we won’t have a chance? So I will be owning myself when I purchase Uncharted 2 and GT5 for my PS3? I will get owned when I purchase the slim for the bedroom? So does that mean we all got owned? Just trying to make sense of your post. Notice in all the comments some of us don’t need to resort to Xbot and all those other bs names to try and get our point across in a discussion. Maybe you should try it and you would be taken more seriously. Just saying.
Damn it stinks of a lot of BULLSHIT in these comments…. Top half is just unreadable. I tried but it’s sad, to sad to read through. I would recommend automatically scrolling about halfway down to avoid the duncical comments, either that or let your head explode. Why people defend these companies is beyond me, you make shit off of them. Not one dime and many of you are going to bat for them like it’s your assigned duty! STFU and play games, bitch about shit worth bitching about like how Activision almost got Brutal Legends delayed or cancled altogether. Lets be serious, either act like a grown ass man or continue to revert to childish banter about WHY this system is gonna lose/win… I like Tor and the bitbag but i see with more popularity i see more assery in these comments. I left Digg after the community was turning a bit and after leaving N4G because it was just unfathomable the points or text and now to even scroll through. I was better off at Digg, didn’t even know it. Bitbag started off small and now that it’s voice is being heard i see the headlights on those same douches that drove me away from N4G. It’s up to Tor and the gang to either run them over or let them hitch on….
no way am i reading all of that bro. and anybody defending xbox 09 exclusives to this day is a blind fanboy. that includes you T DAVIS!
Wow, All the while your trying to defend AAA titles when that game Killzone 2 has been in development for how long before it was released? No one was defending anything but you. It was you trying to make a case about AAA titles. Now we are all blind fanboys even though I own a PS3 myself?
i don’t understand the logic of ” i have all consoles so i can’t be a fanboy”. that is the same as “i have black friends i can’t be racist”.
LOL I didn’t say I owned all consoles in the first place. But yes I do have black friends and white friends. I am black and have a white wife and my kids are mixed. All that is besides the point. No reason to continue since you can’t handle the discussion. Which was expected.
@ otherZinc -”Any reason for the “all caps textâ€? that’s a difficult read.” SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT UNTIL I KNOW HOW TO GET A PROFILE IMAGE, I ALWAYS WILL CAPITALISE. BUT I WILL TRY TO MINIMIZE JUST FOR YOU, JUST THIS TIME JUST FOR YOU. <:I STARTIIING… now. i hear what you are saying, but let me ask you this: are you prepare to send 360 after 360's for the rest of of this generation, cause from what i'm seiing adding warranty isn't fixing the real problem which is the hardware. it seems to me they are putting the same defect hardware back into circulation. all i'm saying is tell them what you are doing ain't right for the consumers. i mean what would it take for them to fix it completely or even 95% fixed. does it have to breakdown in the middle of their E3 2010 presentation? what i'm saying may sound harsh or even fanboyinsh, but consumers need to make the big companies understand they are nothing without us. hit the ms forums, blogs, phone them or whatever, if you don't feel like, then i'm sorry to say it they will own you like a drug dealer owns his clients. i'm just sick of the fat cats taking us for a ride. this has to be addressed.
@ Torrence. You said Microsoft doesn’t have a presence in Europe. Well, you’re wrong & Hip Hop Gamer was right this time. Microsoft has a similar presence to Sony in Europe. Neither Sony nor Microsoft originate in the EU of course, however… Microsoft Game Studios (Europe) is in Thames Valley Park, Reading, UK. This publishing arm promotes MGS games in & across Europe and is similar in function to SCEE. I happen to know exactly where this is by the way… Incidentally, Lionhead is based about an hour south of Reading in Guildford, UK. I happen to know exactly where this is too… Oh and lets not forget MGS owned ‘Rare’, which is based in Twycross, UK. That’s up somewhere around Birmingham (midlands, UK), I haven’t been, but from what I hear, there’s a few people worried about keeping their job there (and some other recruitment + consolidation going on).
What time is the Warzone on (live stream + IRC)?
Damn someone asks this question every week it seems… Nothing you can do but ask but Tor should at least put either a sticky in the forums (if there isn’t one already)on the Warzone time or at least something on the front page of the site stating the time the warzone starts…. BTW Warzone starts midnight EST Fridays. As always i suggest tunning in by 11:30pm est. I for one check in at 11:30 and occasionally theres time to talk about things on your mind before Tor lays down the almighty MUTE ALL!
That is what happened to me lol. I kept trying to mute both the headphones and settings and when I would sign in it would unmute my settings and I tried to beat him from having to boot me.
Thanks + agree with the info as sticky, I had a quick look and couldn’t find any details. Maybe Torrence doesn’t want people tuning in live!
The whole reason i got so much respect for HHG is because he can be himself + be a game journalist at the same time. This is a great quality to have, so in my opinion eating fruit in a review or kissing PR’s isnt such a bad thing if this is who HHG really is. Even you torrence act life yourself regardless of being a game journalist, your burp, fart, curse and crack jokes all the time, and thats why people come to this site and listen to the podcast. People want to hear real gamers talk about games, not some business suit wearing mofo’s who just do it for a wage first. We can be ourselves, plus have a passion for game journalism, and thats what both you and HHG represent and thats why I respect you guys along with my Koalition team.
You’re right Swiff. I just think it’s in bad taste to eat during a podcast. But maybe people don’t like my burping and farting either. At least I tried curving that habit at one point. LOL!
I think there’s a big line between being yourself (i.e. wearing clothes that represent who you are, talking a certain way, etc) and being unprofessional. Especially during a game review. If I was working in PR for Company X, had only so many games to send out to reviewers, and then saw that one guy was basically reviewing the game while eating fruit (and undoubtedly smacking his lips), taking a dump, bathing, etc, I’m pretty sure I’d think long and hard about sending that guy a game in the future. Diehard fans are just that. Think of a powerful figure that surrounds himself with “yes men.” You can’t expect them to tell you anything you don’t want to hear. There’s also a big line between a podcast (which is devoted to a myriad of topics) and a game review IMO.
The reason I don’t post the info as a sticky all the time is because if the room fills up before I get in, I’m not getting in. I need to find a way around that though. I’ll figure it out.
CONFIRMED= BITBAG360.COM Tor and his defenders are at it once again defending garbage that over heats and that’s speaking from personal experience. How can u deny the fact that the 360 is faulty??!!! can any of you brain washed 360 fanboys on this site explain this to me. I can see if you own a large library of 360 games which would make it difficult to purchased the other reliable product with more features due money issues. But for real how can most or you continue to rationalize whats obvious? I received that game informer and the numbers seem precise. I will state it again and again, i own 2 360′s and the first one died after 4 months. When the second one started freezing i traded it in for a PS3 (2 years without any issues). Smart consumers don’t keep buying faulty goods that means software as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you continue to do so even though u may have the funds to get something else you are 100% retarded and or brainwashed PERIOD END OF STORY GAME OVER!!!!!!!! The software issue. I have all the games i like to play with the PS3 exclusives, MSG4, Imfamous, Killzone 2, i’m not saying they are the best games because I’m mature man and don’t get involved in fanboy discussion regarding sales etc. I just know that these EARLY PS3 exclusives are just the beginning of what going to be some awesome games. The exclusives coming out this fall and winter are just another example of whats to come and when your console works 100% of the time it makes it even more enjoyable. I’m praising Sony because the product i purchased from them WORKS, i loved my 360′s until…… DING DING DING it stopped working in a clean cool environment!!!!!! I’m writing this because i refuse to believe people are this naive and stupid and yeah this a 360 fanboy site as well. Seriously would some of yall like to jump in your vehicle in the morning to go to work not knowing if its going to start up or over heat on the way? lol this is common sense people so stop rationalizing failure and start realizing your being bamboozled by MS. The warzone has taken a serious dive IMO its not entertaining anymore. Meaning listening to two to three 360 fanboys who can actually articulate their biased views against one man who probably didn’t obtain a high school diploma. Its like watching the 1990′s Chicago Bulls with Jordan against the clippers lol, get freaking real Torrance try getting some different people on your discussion panel and mix up the topics more. HHG is just as bad lol but wit the PS3. The fact that he cant complete a full sentence properly (verbally or written)makes him almost unbearable to listen to sometimes. If you guys are going to debate share the topics a full week before so this man can prepare GOOD GRIEF!!!! ITS LISTENING TO ROLLO FROM SANFORD AND SON TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES. Oh yea in the beginning of this weeks podcast did yall hear Torrence confess his love for mboojigga lmao? just listen in the beginning when he was talking about some of the people in chat room. to say the least i wasnt surprised at all. This and HHG.com have been exposed and they cant and wont offer unbiased and objective game reporting, its another haven for fanboys mainly 360. Back to gamespot which as actually cleaned its act up and offers content and fair reviews now. On the spot can be entertaining as well.
“I received that game informer and the numbers seem precise. I will state it again and again, i own 2 360’s and the first one died after 4 months. When the second one started freezing i traded it in for a PS3 (2 years without any issues). Smart consumers don’t keep buying faulty goods that means software as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you continue to do so even though u may have the funds to get something else you are 100% retarded and or brainwashed PERIOD END OF STORY GAME OVER!!!!!!!!” So you believe that the poll was accurate. This means you believe PS3 has a 10% failure rate which I think is hogwash. My one RROD has been fixed and that system gets run to the ground(runs over night for 12+ hours sometimes) and hasn’t had a single problem since it’s repair. I never defended RROD. It sucks but at least the warranty is good. You said that if consumers keep buying faulty goods that they are retarded. I know people who have gone through 3 PS2′s. Are they retarded? There’s a guy in the forums on his 3rd PS3. Is he retarded? You know what’s retarded, you posting in this comment section when you don’t even like the site or podcast. I don’t remember hearing or discussing anything pro-360 last night. It was all about Sony’s price drop, me losing the bet and some games coming out. You need help bro. BTW: “GOOD GRIEF!!!! ITS LISTENING TO ROLLO FROM SANFORD AND SON TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES.” I LOL’d.
Yeah….no way your wife is a blonde who stopped modeling 4 years ago.
So Huey, are you calling me a 360 fan boy as well? Got any proof of that?
you be writing novels on the comments man dam !
I need Help? I never stated i disliked the site Torrence. I just want you to own up to your biases and stop playing games via podcast, and sometimes on your weekly videos. Mboojigga why are you worrying about my wife? she is a ex model 5 foot 9 short blonde hair and tan as hell, sorry if your white girl is over weight or ugly etc lol dont bring it here brotha for real. I’m 6 foot 5 235 pounds and athletic i never had problems attracting women of all kinds. When brothas got thier lives in order and can handle themselves amongst the “elite” then its almost too easy to find women like this. I met her in church and btw as i stated before a co worker was using my account to start stuff with some people in here so dont rely on some old comments made in here. In matter of fact i wasnt the one that typed that info regarding my personal life it was my co worker cuz he thought he sounded funny etc. Torrence you indirectly defend the 360 every podcast and you know it. Some of us are just smart enough to pick up on your biased reporting and commentary. For example this is the second time you used your own son to highlight what u think is so great about the 360 lol nice try. Yeah he loves it because he’s just a freaking kid. the 360 is a kiddy console ie on live all you hear is nigger, gay, ur gay, your a nigger thats all i heard throughout every Halo match i played on my 360 NON STOP!!, this is before Halo 3 came out and my 360 had died before that. I can literally say that every other person i play in a sports on PSN becomes a friend on my list, you know why because whether winning or losing the communication is 90% positive because i’m playing adults most of the time. Whatever man i just have high expectations dude I never stated i disliked this site. Trust me I’m a person who doesnt waste too much time on this stuff. The potential is there because your a intelligent black man and to be honest we are better entertainers lol. The early warzones were funny as hell and informative what happened? Fanboyism lol and where is the brother wit the glasses from E3 at? He talked a lot but he was funny and knew his games and the industry very well. the stocky dude wit the glasses from the E3 round table vids. Drakol Defensive statements and behaviors especially over the internet reek of a guilty heart and mind…. so yes you are a fanboy get over it there are much worse things for a person to be so dont be ashamed of it lol.
honestly…. you come off a little retarded…. and in all honesty why don’t you just go on the warzone on friday if you got things to say… instead of being a pussy bitch and typing shit in the comments each week….. Oh and if you think a survey of 5000 people when there are 30 million + 360s as an accurate survey…. well maybe you need to go back to school. The survey is far from random and is not controlled enough to understand who is doing the survey and why. This goes for all the surveys numbers for each system… I might as well put numbers in a hat and pull one out because that would at least have a higher chance of being accurate then a survey.
The man your speaking of is blade206. He is awesome and the only reason Tor hates on him is because he is very clever when he talks about the ps3. If you watch those e3 roundtables again you can see how he was able to control everyone. I suggest you tune into their podcast every week. Its on iTunes. They offer a great show and it is for the most part ps3 pro. Heres some links. Link to stream their podcast http://www.gamesonsmash.com/?cat=4
I asked for proof, not a smart ass comment.
“GOOD GRIEF!!!! ITS LISTENING TO ROLLO FROM SANFORD AND SON TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES.†– LMAO that had me on the FLOOR!!! im sorry but HHG got owned with that line. that has got to be QUOTE of the week
“Mboojigga why are you worrying about my wife? she is a ex model 5 foot 9 short blonde hair and tan as hell, sorry if your white girl is over weight or ugly etc lol dont bring it here brotha for real. I’m 6 foot 5 235 pounds and athletic i never had problems attracting women of all kinds. When brothas got thier lives in order and can handle themselves amongst the “elite†then its almost too easy to find women like this. I met her in church and btw as i stated before a co worker was using my account to start stuff with some people in here so dont rely on some old comments made in here. In matter of fact i wasnt the one that typed that info regarding my personal life it was my co worker cuz he thought he sounded funny etc.” Wait wait wait wait. We are supposed to know which post is your co workers vs your comments. All the comments seem so….similar. You know what, whatever you and your co-worker do is your business. It is all good. Yikes!
im a 360 fanboy fuck ps3. thats for you huey.
Told you…. Nothing but a bunch of sensitive men in here…. The lot of them need hugs. All the sensible comments get watered out with noiseless dribble. @ Tor You don’t host your own TS Server? You rent a server and have them host for you? How many licenses/seats do you currently have? I remember we had a full house on some warzones and i wasn’t able to join, let me know the seats aren’t that expensive and I’ll send some cash for the cause if it means more people can join the show. Also you can setup TeamSpeak Web Viewer so that it’s a clickable from thebitbag.com and all users would have to do is have the teamspeak client installed. Basically when they click on it launches or will ask to launch teamspeak so even if you change the port members wouldn’t have to worry about it…. There’s other methods just shootin ideas your way.
It’s a fact, Tor = xbot.
hey tor why does all the fanboy chatter mainly the ps3 side bother you so much man fuck those dickheads there never going to stop,please stop giving them air time on the warzone/davis weekly,id love to hear a warzone were you guys talk more about games regardless of the console there on,i understand the show is called the warzone and you dicuss the console wars but you also said you want to educate and inform gamers but buy arguing console wars to much the show sometimes can sound like a group of fanboys defending there console rather than what it should be TRUE GAMERS talking about the most important thing THE GAMES.peace bro
I’d argue that people didn’t buy a PS3 just for MGS4 & FF13. These two titles are important to the PS3′s overall success, but they’re only a part of the PS3′s value proposition. Little Big Planet sold PS3′s as did KillZone 2. Most certainly here in Europe the Wipeout, Gran Turismo & Tekken franchises do very well also. All these games play a part in selling consoles. Don’t click reply just yet… I’m not done. From a perspective of games (NOT price) this generation, you shouldn’t look beyond Halo 3 as a PERFECTLY executed plan. Halo is a strong brand & this generation’s most critical move. Halo 3 was released before Christmas 2007 and before GTA4 in 2008. BOOM. GTA4 was A MAJOR REASON for people to buy a PlayStation 3. Unfortunately for Sony, millions had already bought a X360 for Halo 3. Those people were never getting a PS3 for GTA4. Had Halo 3 been released after GTA4, the X360 would’ve had a smaller user base & more PS3′s & games would’ve sold – despite having a higher console RRP. Halo 3′s later release would’ve gone the route of Halo 2 on the XBox. Microsoft worked a great strategy here to get Halo 3 out early. Many people are brand driven and Sony PlayStation is no doubt a bigger brand name than XBox. That’s another reason Sony has returned to PS2 style branding for the PS3. Sony will attack aggressively, but marketing alone is no longer enough. Titles like God of War III & Uncharted 2 will do well for the PS3, but they do not have the brand power of CoD / GTA. CoD6 is multi-platform and GTA5 is a while off… Agent is a new IP and it won’t sell any more consoles than Little Big Planet or KillZone 2 has. It doesn’t matter how much Hip-Hop Gamer talks up GoW III or Uncharted 2, because frankly *no-one outside the hard core* knows or cares who he is (sorry Hip-Hop). All these games are for the hard core gamer and frankly, Alan Wake is just as big a title as any of these – on the X360. Other games like Max Payne 3 will keep people interested in gaming on the X360. Sony needs something COMPELLING. … So here it is. Gran Turismo 5 is Sony’s ONLY chance to catch Microsoft this generation. To do it, GT5 has to hit 10M+ sales by the end of 2010. For that to happen, Sony must market the sh*t out of it. Gran Turismo water bottles, Gran Turismo race-track days, Gran Turismo & Kaz on TV (ads, talk shows, Top Gear, etc), Gran Turismo billboards, Gran Turismo on your lawn… That game MUST BE EVERYWHERE & IT WILL… The question is, how will it sell?
If GT5 is released this december as rumored or next year which was speculated earlier in the year than i do not believe it can sell 10M in 12 months… What game has EVER done those numbers? Wii Play, Wii Fit took a longer than that to reach 10M. If you believe that’s what it will take, being a betting man i’ll take the under.
A quote… 3rd Jan 2008: Microsoft announced today that it has sold more than 8.1M copies of Halo 3 since its launch on the 25th of September 2007. 8.1M in 3 months of sales. Halo 3 only very recently hit 10M copies sold (just < 2yrs on). GT5 needs to sell even faster than Halo 3. Arguably, it should have more appeal. Who doesn't like driving games and shouldn't GT5 be the best one overall? Mathematically, it could happen as there's a lot of PS3's already out there. A European PS3 + GT5 bundle will sell like 18 year old virgin prostitutes & result in an onslaught of marriages! Only a far off hit of Forza 4 may result in some future adultery & divorce. It can only happen if punters think the price is right for them this Christmas… I'm only saying Sony must do this to catch Microsoft this generation.
I know what your saying. Here’s my take everyone has this set time or date in which Sony has to overtake Microsoft in sales before all is considered lost. I don’t understand why. We’ve seen this before that when the PS3 first cut the price it steadily outsold the 360, that’s one part of the equation. The second part is now at the $299 sweet spot and more AAA titles coming it provides Sony for what i predict will be stability. I think the price cut will provide it’s own boost in sales, for consoles these prices cuts sweet spots usually last around 6 months before things start leveling out. With AAA titles like Uncharted 2, GT 5 and God of War 3 sprinkled in throughout the 6 months it will keep hardware/software sales peaking. On the flip side you have Microsoft with their Pro and Elite dropping prices, i don’t believe it will impact sony sales as much as people think. Mainly because most consumers looking to buy a 360 already knew that it was priced at $299 maybe not what particular model. I don’t believe this will cause confusion or even effect Sony. In the end there’s no set date in which Sony NEEDS to pass microsoft, it’s more like if they time releases right with marketing and bundle accordingly they can. Mind you even with their 7M lead WW that number hasn’t changed much it’s all about chipping away. Microsoft won’t stop selling it’s all about constantly outselling the competition over a period of time. Thoughts…
@Commander, I cant wait for the NPD’s either, then you & your cronies will realise “Games” is the driving force behind system sales. The PS3 only has August to beat the 360 in sales, September is the release of Halo 3:ODST. So, tell your friends to snap-up the $299 PS3′s this month, so SONY can win August NPD’s. A Commander, you do know ODST is going to outsell the top 3 PS3 exclusives from now until December, right? That’s Uncharted 2, Ratchet, & I’ll give you any PS3 exclusive of your choice (releasing now until December 31) to stop the Stopper AKA Halo 3:ODST. & When I’m right, I wont call you a “dumbass” as you called mboojigga & myself, its cool, we’ll laugh about it later.
@Kingpin2k7, I was Pissed!, every time I called M$ when my or my sons 360 failed. However, they turned my “RAGE” into satisfaction, by being very apologetic & returning my 360′s in under 10 days each time. It was an enormous problem but that warranty is unprecedented, making M$ Chief, in terms of customer satisfaction in my book. I’ll always support a company that supports their product in this fashion, that’s why I buy SAMSUNG monitors & HDTV’s, they have the best warranty in the business, & when the warranty runs out, they still support you, at least they did in my case. SAMSUNG has a life long partner in otherZinc for the rest of my life & kids lives. Now SONY, on the other hand, don’t go 2 hours over 1 year or your paying $150 for your repairs. That’s unacceptable! As I’ve said before, if I had to pay for 1 of those 360 repairs, I wouldn’t be a 360 owner today.
“each time” LOL! wait until your 3 years is up.
@mikemadden, It already happened, I believe I was 2 months over, I called pissed, before I could give them a piece of my mind, they said that’s ok: I then stfu.
@LordVonPS3, What a spectacular post! That even slipped my analyst of the software market, that Halo 3 strategy sounds reasonable. Also, it more clearly explains DLC releasing around Killzone 2 & DLC releasing this fall, perfect timing, all in efforts to slow PS3 software sales. Splinter Cell:Conviction releasing in 2010 was done to counter PS3 releases that moved to 2010, I’m sure M$ compensated UBI for the move, I believe it was 100% business. I just want SC:C in 2009, to make me happy. GT 5 releasing in 2010 wont help PS3 in 2010 at all, even if they advertised in Elementary, Middle, High Schools, & Colleges across the world, giving kids T-shirts, cookies, kool-aid, candy, & coke with GT 5′s best car on all the products they handed to the kids. I don’t believe a racing game can carry a console in America & racing games is a favorite genre for me. In 2010, Halo:Reach a bonafide sales leader will have no equal, game over! Also, when GT 5 went on its sales rampage, it was a pack-in on a console starving for games. An indication of GT 5 sales, were the weak sales of GT Prologue as a stand alone. First month Prologue numbers were way less than great for a game slated as being a difference maker. For comparisons sake, Halo demo in Crackdown, sold over 1 million, tricking us into playing a very good game most of us would’ve let slip by without the demo. Anyway, great post.
I give up.
LordVonPS3, You or anyone here can’t really say that Agent won’t sell any PS3′s. The opposite can be said about Alan Wake even though it is a new IP as well. It all depends like you said with the veteran GT Especially since we have yet to even see the game. Killzone 2 got killed by its controls as we all know FPS games live by the controls and gameplay, not the graphics. This is why you see people still playing Team Fortress and Quake on PC and on the consoles Modern Warfare and Halo 3. It is dissapointing how much time and effort was put into to the game with alot of positives only to have the developers fuck one of the most critical features in a game which is controls. This doesn’t mean the controls were fucked up for everyone as we have been down that road with that discussion but Sony has hyped this game since 2005′s infamous trailer and to see months after that the game didn’t make as big of a splash as it could have shows you what Sony needs to do. Sony is about to start an 80 million dollar campaign in the U.K. so we will see what impact that will have for the remainder of the year. Here in the states with the Slim releaseing on the 1st and the MS confirming the the price drop for the 360 it will be interesting what the numbers will be for September NPD. I personally am shocked they dropped it as low as they did and with the slim at that.
Agent won’t sell PS3′s. There, I’ve said it.
lol did you also know that the PS3 in Europe is at $250? Did you also know that Sony couldve left the price at $250 but ofcourse they wanted profit so why not $299 you know what im saying? lol this is positive stuff for Sony and just thinking that the 360 Elite can compare to what your getting with a PS3 at the same prices of $299 cmon now… its a wrap dude lol… the only people I know who would buy the Elite or the PS3 are people who dont know any better about gaming, media, or anything in particular that has to do with what their truly trying to get out of these systems and if you look at the specs PS3 is offering you more bang for your buck, and even then ou have Microsoft taking out the headset as well as the HDMI cables they use to bring with the Elite so how is it a better offer lol? but then again this is my opinion and opinions dont matter do they?…. Will just have to w8 until the holidays…
a torrence let me see you smash these to xbots u got on the site mboojigga and otherZinc
that will never happen they are his little toy soldiers
@Bucnasty, I’m just telling it like it is, seriously. If NPD proves me wrong, I’ll own it. SONY has a great chance to win August, but, today at Target, Wal-mart, & BestBuy the Elite is $299 & Pro is $249, the race may be tight. However, September will produce Halo 3:ODST & take September. I’m not afraid to predict Consumer Behavior, this is fun for me, if I’m wrong, kick sand in my face, if I’m right: look out! I’ll be the fist one to get banned from the Bitbag forums. Na, joking, I wouldn’t be an @ss like that, its good times for me, better than real life.
Another entertaining Warzone. Just one beef…a lot of time was spent on whether a reviewer needs to finish a game in order to write a proper review. I agree that, depending on the game, some times this just isn’t possible. But for those games that offer 10 to 15 hours of single-player storyline, I think that it is important to finish them. I offer Star Wars: The Force Unleashed as an example. The Star Destroyer sequence is gimped. You would only know this if you played through most of the game. Also, the reason Avatar (the James Cameron movie, not the The Last Airbender) is a big deal is due to the film techniques used in the movie. He is using a brand new 3D camera that many think will revolutionize the film business. However, no one is sure if the movie’s story will be up to par with the technology. I actually got the chance to meet James Cameron at San Diego Comic-Con this year. He is hopeful that television manufacturers will start producing high-end 3D televisions in order to kick-start the entertainment industry. Panasonic is already onboard. Ubisoft’s Avatar game is going to be released in 3D, and based upon the early gameplay that I saw, looked pretty impressive. Of course, you’ll need a 3D television to play it in 3D. BTW, I asked Cameron when was he going to make a sequel to Aquaman.
Seriously Bucnasty(1987???), you are one of the reasons i come to this site. I love to read flawed logic and laugh my … off. Mike, you do a good job too, so keep it up. ontopic: good show.
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Yep my mistake. Still they have a campaign move going on.
LOL Gaiden was either too hard for you or too frustrating for you. I loved Gaiden 2 only hated that god forsaken camera. I’m picking it up for the PS3 just so i can play online with some friends and with the new camera issue fixed. The other two i agree too long and not intriguing enough. Nah Ghouls and Ghosts had me pissed the fuck off playing it to what i thought was presumably the end just to have to do it again!!! Me and my brother use to race to see who could really beat the game faster. You want games that require skill try Battletoads or Mega Man. Fuck i hated Mega Man shit had no passwords and energy was hard to come by. I shouldn’t even have to talk about battletoads… More recently i would have to say the first Halo on legendary was challenging and Uncharted on Crushing… Fuckin hate crushing.
@LordVonPS3 “If you can’t be bothered to play it, why should a reviewer? Developers shouldn’t waste time working on something that only a few people will ever go back to. At the very least, they shouldn’t waste MY time. ” The goal of a person who performs game reviews (or any kind of review for that matter) is not to have fun. It is to play the game, analyze its strengths and weaknesses, and ultimately, provide a recommendation to the public as to whether they should consider buying the game. If the reviewer happens to have fun while playing the game, that is a fortunate side benefit. The review is for the benefit of the public, not the reviewer. “Lets take Ikaruga, Jet Set Willy 2, R-Type and Ghouls n’ Ghosts as examples. It is possible to complete all these games in well under the 7 hours that many CoD4 reviewers complained about, but only if you’ve got the skills to do it – and by the way, most of you don’t. That doesn’t mean you won’t try again. After all, you really should be able to finish it in 1 hour, right? The majority of videogames today require more time than skill and that’s a shame.” If a reviewer doesn’t have the skill to finish a particular game in a timely fashion, then perhaps he or she is not best suited to provide a review for that particular genre. You wouldn’t care what your grandmother thought of Call of Duty 4, would you? But she might be able to offer some insight regarding Wii Sports from an older person’s perspective, right? At the end of the day, the review is supposed to inform. If the reviewer doesn’t play the whole game, in some instances, that individual is not providing a full picture. Imagine what the reviews would have been for the Sixth Sense if all the critics walked out 3/4 of the way through the movie? Again, the caveat to this is that certain games, such as JRPGs, are almost impossible to finish within a week. Especially if writing game reviews is not your primary occupation. But for a game that offers between 5 and 15 hours of single-player gameplay, there is no reason why a competent gamer could not finish the game once and write a review. It may not be fun, especially if it is a shitty game, but that is the life of a critic.
Who wants to make a bet with me that ODst wont even sell 5million. Even further who wants to make a bet that modern warfare 2 (360 only) will outsell halo odst. Halo ODST will definately not sell more than three ps3 titles combined. Uncharted is going to have monster sales, Gt will have mass murder when it comes out and god of war 3 will sell huge. It nice to think halo will outsell those 3 titles but then reality smacks u in the face owned?
Why? Here it is your bitching online here and complaining about actual discussions of games etc, now you pull out a BS challenge that this won’t outsell that? What makes you post funny though is that you actually put in your post and call out ODST against 3 titles. When you think about it I can put a combination of games together and say Halo 3 10 million outsold Resistance 1&2 and Uncharted
. As I said in another post will I be PWNING myself when I purchase all the titles you mention?
its pretty obvious odst wont sell more then MW2… Halos draw is its multiplayer which people can already have on halo 3 with expansion packs…. so if they are not interested in the odst single player… no real reason to buy the game….MW2 on the other hand is an all new multiplayer experience for the series… which means it will draw people interested in single and multiplayer. Very stupid argument have some sense next time…..
@commander, Love your attitude (nohomo). I wont take that ODST vs MW2, however, I believe ODST will prevail in the end. In the US Market, where we can accurately track software sales & not pack-ins. Halo 3:ODST will outsell the top 3 PS3 exclusives by the end of December 09. You take your pick.
See you guys love to talk but none of you are willing to stand by your beliefs. I was going to offer anyone that challenge me a $10 card for PSN or XBL if they were right. Also why did you switch it up to only US Market. Nobody compares games by only US Numbers. I know why you did it and it was a nice trick. Ill give you that 360 completely owns North America.
What was your source for the numbers going to be, VgCharts?
Not a chance in hell. NPDs are the only source you can trust today.
What was your source going to be for numbers OUTSIDE the U.S.?
I only said US because NPD doesn’t count pack-ins. Other software charts count pack-in games, that’s why Uncharted sold over a million, without pack-ins it wouldn’t make it. Go with the truth & I’ll bet you all day. I wont go with MW2 vs Halo 3:ODST because anything can happen there. However, I’ll be more than happy to bet you MW2 wont come close to Halo 3 numbers on the 360 only.