I had to stop this chat. It will continue via voice on the Warzone this friday. People are starting to look at me because I’m yelling at my screen.

[2:21:15 PM] tordavis: yes
[2:21:18 PM] tordavis: her
[2:21:19 PM] tordavis: here
[2:21:20 PM] tordavis: here
[2:21:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): its bambino can you talk on skype or not
[2:22:27 PM] tordavis: i’m at work
[2:22:30 PM] tordavis: only type
[2:22:34 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): dammit
[2:22:42 PM] tordavis: I can type 72wpm
[2:22:44 PM] tordavis: start it up
[2:22:56 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok then ill save most of my words for warzone if im aloud
[2:22:58 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ??
[2:23:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but
[2:23:08 PM] tordavis: you can say what you want on the warzone
[2:23:17 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): have you seen my latest comment
[2:23:19 PM] tordavis: yep
[2:23:23 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok
[2:23:45 PM] tordavis: this discussion will be posted just so you know
[2:23:51 PM] tordavis: give it all you got
[2:23:53 PM] tordavis: don’t hold back
[2:23:55 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): brilliant
[2:24:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so why did you feel it nessecary to skip through the point i was making
[2:24:33 PM] tordavis: I didn’t do that purposely
[2:24:38 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but you did it
[2:24:40 PM] tordavis: but I still don’t get your point
[2:24:51 PM] tordavis: all I’m getting is that I’m an xbox fanboy
[2:24:56 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the point about quantum theory was
[2:24:58 PM] tordavis: but no conclusive evidence to prove so
[2:25:01 PM] tordavis: oh
[2:25:07 PM] tordavis: ok
[2:25:45 PM] tordavis: I understand your comparison, but for the sake of being literal, I had to smash your example. after reading your last post, I’ll drop that smashing.
[2:26:13 PM] tordavis: my issue is that Quantum was made to look like Gears for a reason.
[2:26:15 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): it would be better in EVERY gamers interest if because of numerous imitations epic went the capcom route and re invent the shooting genre
[2:26:28 PM] tordavis: MK does not look like SF2 but it’s still a 2D fighting game
[2:26:32 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): of course many games wanna be gears
[2:26:39 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): army of two anyone
[2:26:50 PM] tordavis: yeah but army of two doesn’t look like Gears
[2:26:52 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the reason why xbots hate on quantum
[2:26:56 PM] tordavis: I don’t hate it
[2:27:01 PM] tordavis: I just think it’s a blatant copy
[2:27:02 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): is that it looks as good as gears
[2:27:26 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): its like that warzone when you said ps fanboys didnt care about xbox last gen
[2:27:33 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because they wernt a threat
[2:27:34 PM] tordavis: they didn’t
[2:27:40 PM] tordavis: threat?
[2:27:42 PM] tordavis: who Microsoft?
[2:27:47 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): we said that at the same time believe it or not
[2:27:52 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): yup
[2:27:59 PM] tordavis: so they’re a threat now? This is coming from your mouth
[2:28:37 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): its true though there a threat to sony not me when microsoft goes hard i benefit
[2:28:43 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so i thrive
[2:28:49 PM] tordavis: ok
[2:29:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): its when whiney fanboys defend MS blatant bull that i get pissed cos i lose out
[2:29:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): like if everybody who reviewed gears 2 said
[2:29:28 PM] tordavis: I’ll tell ya what started all this fanboyism on the PS3 side and the xbox side. I can also tell you why it’s more prevalent with PS3 than xbox
[2:29:49 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): well im not sure about htat
[2:30:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because xbots were bashing ps3 before it came out
[2:30:09 PM] tordavis: that’s one thing
[2:30:15 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and why
[2:30:19 PM] tordavis: but it has nothing to do with fans at all
[2:30:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ummmmm
[2:30:29 PM] tordavis: it’s empty promises and delusions of grandure
[2:30:31 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): yes it does
[2:30:38 PM] tordavis: think about it
[2:30:44 PM] tordavis: Sony won the last two generations
[2:30:57 PM] tordavis: playstation fans were comfortable with that
[2:31:21 PM] tordavis: even though xbox had better graphics and all that shit, they didn’t care because they were getting great games
[2:31:59 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ive talked to people that have never played a ps3 but say its shit and there only buying it foe a certain game and the funny thing is when i say why dont you just stick to your xbox then they get angry and start contradicting them selves
[2:32:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but microsoft had the money to make some great games
[2:32:26 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): just not the strategy
[2:32:47 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): there NEVER gonna win the japanese over
[2:33:04 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so thats always gonna be a thorn in there side
[2:33:44 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i’d say your a fanboy because you smash ps3 on the dlow but effectively
[2:33:52 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): hardcore effectively
[2:34:25 PM] tordavis: The 360 comes out, everyone laughs, including myself and Sony tells everyone that the next gen starts when they say so.
[2:34:34 PM] tordavis: sony loyalist believe this
[2:34:57 PM] tordavis: Sony also says 1080p/60fps in all games…etc…
[2:34:59 PM] tordavis: hold on
[2:35:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so
[2:35:33 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): fuck sony
[2:36:08 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): them bastards hold back backwards compatability software emulation just to sell ps2s
[2:36:18 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i aint feeling that
[2:38:23 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): are you there
[2:38:35 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): how id prove your a fanboy isss
[2:39:56 PM] tordavis: ok
[2:40:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sorry finish your point
[2:41:53 PM] tordavis: ok…so anyways, after the release of the PS3, sony fans didn’t get what they were promised. then microsoft started getting all the sequels to popular games that were on the ps2. Ace Combat, GTA, Japanese RPG’s, etc.
[2:42:25 PM] tordavis: Because of all the hate the PS3 was getting by the media, compounded with the lack of delivery of promises by sony, pissed off a lot of gamers
[2:43:56 PM] tordavis: but that’s no biggie, they are delivering jsut fine now. It’s just that there’s a lot of bitterness and a lot of the frustration comes out in forums, comment sections and articles
[2:44:31 PM] tordavis: Xbox fanboys? They feel vindicated because they gambled on a microsoft console after MS gave up on them last gen.
[2:44:48 PM] tordavis: That gamble is paying off so they shove sales in everyone’s face
[2:45:07 PM] tordavis: every bit of fanboyism is a result of how Sony and MS played this generation
[2:45:21 PM] tordavis: Defending either Sony or Microsoft DOES NOT MAKE YOU A FANBOy
[2:45:26 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok theres some truth there
[2:46:08 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the sony fanboy movement was started by the advent of the blog and the undeserved hate it was getting from the US press
[2:46:12 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): now
[2:46:43 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the thing is defending either console doesnt make you a fanboy
[2:46:50 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but you go hard for 360
[2:47:11 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): im listening to warzone 49
[2:47:59 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): where you were talking about whouldve sold more if they launched at the same time
[2:48:36 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you said MS would still have outsold sony
[2:48:46 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): that wouldnt have been the case
[2:49:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you used gears being a launch title as leverage
[2:49:13 PM] tordavis: yes
[2:49:17 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but gears wouldnt have mattered
[2:49:23 PM] tordavis: I can’t see why not?
[2:49:34 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because the first xbox had much better games than geras
[2:49:38 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): gears
[2:49:47 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): a deluge of better games than gears
[2:49:56 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but it got raped by sony
[2:50:05 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): for the first time evry
[2:50:18 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ever hiphop had you beat intellectually
[2:50:24 PM] tordavis: lol
[2:50:25 PM] tordavis: ok wait
[2:50:26 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i dropped my noodles
[2:50:34 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): he said
[2:50:40 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): why gears was big
[2:51:02 PM] tordavis: you’re telling me that if both the ps3 and 360 launched in 2006 and Gears was a launch title, it wouldn’t have mattered? Even though Gears is one of the most popular games this gen?
[2:51:12 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): was the anticipation that was built by the console already being on the market
[2:51:28 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): it was gonna be microsoft first big game
[2:51:43 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i remember reading xbox exclusive magazines
[2:52:02 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and it being drummed in to my head that this game was gonna be awesome
[2:52:05 PM] tordavis: that has nothing to do with whether the game would have been popular or not
[2:52:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and when i played it
[2:52:17 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): boy it delivered
[2:52:30 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): yes you have a point it wouldve been popular
[2:52:36 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but not as popular
[2:52:50 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sony past triumphs prove that
[2:52:59 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): forza
[2:53:04 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): blinx
[2:53:06 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): otogi
[2:53:11 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): steel battalion
[2:53:20 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): metal wolf saga
[2:53:28 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): panzer dragoon orta
[2:53:40 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): jet set radio future
[2:53:48 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): kung fu chaos
[2:53:49 PM] tordavis: I think it would have been worse for sony at launch for MS to have a game like that and sony to have nothing to match it in quality or gameplay
[2:53:57 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): obviously
[2:54:00 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but
[2:54:06 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): it wouldnt of mattered
[2:54:49 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): people are stupid and wouldve went for the sony brand name like theve been doing for the past 10-12 years
[2:55:05 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): when the 360 came out
[2:55:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the general consensus was imma wait for ps3
[2:55:32 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): or get a 360 until ps3
[2:55:42 PM] tordavis: one sec
[2:55:47 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sony never thought that ms would get hot
[2:56:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and people are too ashamed to admit that they cant afford a ps3
[2:56:14 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): oh yeah
[2:56:50 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): bringing up sonys amounts of price drops in comparrison to ms was a very silly move
[2:56:56 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): very fanboyish
[2:57:02 PM] tordavis: but 25million people went for the original xbox
[2:57:14 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok
[2:57:23 PM] tordavis: so given that the xbox already had a fanbase and then Gears as a launch title would have been a no brainer
[2:57:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): compare that to the amount of people went for ps3w
[2:57:35 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sorry
[2:57:37 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ps2
[2:57:52 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): gears wouldve been a sleeper hit
[2:58:14 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sony wouldve done what they did the last gen
[2:58:28 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because sega had MUCH BETTER games out
[2:58:42 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but sony fooled everyone with a dvd player
[2:59:01 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): “look kids now you can watch matrix and hardcore porn”
[2:59:32 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): anyway
[2:59:46 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): back to the price drops ummmmm
[2:59:59 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): that was very fanboyish
[3:00:34 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): when sony launched they priced themselves OUT of the market
[3:00:55 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): price drops were litterally neccessary for them
[3:01:12 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because devs were holding back there big games
[3:01:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sony losing monster hunter was very damaging for them
[3:01:52 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so funnily enough around that time came the first price drop
[3:02:11 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but even then they were still overpriced
[3:02:39 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): by the way didnt they sell ps3 at a faster rate than ms sold 360s
[3:02:48 PM] tordavis: I don’t think the price drops from sony was a bad move, but how do you counter the argument that MS dropping the price of the 360 is out of desparation?
[3:03:04 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): im not saying it was
[3:03:12 PM] tordavis: but that was a counter to that argument
[3:03:13 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): that wasnt my argue ment
[3:03:18 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but
[3:03:18 PM] tordavis: I didn’t pull that out of my ass
[3:03:21 PM] tordavis: it was just a counter
[3:03:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but
[3:03:40 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): they were getting there asses kicked
[3:03:47 PM] tordavis: not really
[3:03:52 PM] tordavis: but they could have sold more
[3:03:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): that and the fact there hardware was cheap
[3:03:59 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): made it easy
[3:04:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): honestly
[3:04:06 PM] tordavis: and they couldn’t help but price it high with the bluray functionality
[3:04:32 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): do you think ms wouldve outsold sony for the end period had they not cut the price
[3:04:42 PM] tordavis: not sure
[3:04:44 PM] tordavis: it’s possible
[3:04:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): especially with the onslaught of titles sony had coming at the time
[3:04:55 PM] tordavis: holiday is where you make your sales, not quarter 1-3
[3:05:16 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and remember people actually gave a shit about home then
[3:05:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[3:05:27 PM] tordavis: home doesn’t sell consoles
[3:05:33 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): true
[3:05:50 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but it wouldcve been interesting for progressive gamers
[3:05:52 PM] tordavis: wait i’m still on the gears at launch
[3:05:56 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok
[3:06:04 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sleeper hit
[3:06:04 PM] tordavis: you are using the whole, PS3 was selling at a faster rate argument
[3:06:14 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): im just asking
[3:06:38 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): there were no HOT games for 360 before gears
[3:06:48 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i was waiting for them
[3:06:49 PM] tordavis: compare xbox 360 2005 sales to ps3 2006 sales then yes. But with gears as a launch and probably all RROD issues worked out before a 2006 launch, I think sales would have been higher for the 360.
[3:07:02 PM] tordavis: both 360 and ps3 had suck bawl launches
[3:07:06 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): they mightve been a higher number
[3:07:13 PM] tordavis: but if 360 waiting a year they would have have a much nicer launch
[3:07:23 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but not neccssary higher thn ps3
[3:07:27 PM] tordavis: problem is they wouldn’t have had the price drop advantage
[3:07:39 PM] tordavis: well it’s all speculation
[3:08:06 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but WHO wouldve been waiting for a 360 when everyone was playing a playstation for the last two current gens
[3:08:18 PM] tordavis: fact of the matter is, there are a ton of ps3 fanboys that said PS3 would be number one right now and it hasn’t happened yet.
[3:08:24 PM] tordavis: nothing can stop the wii. period.
[3:08:39 PM | Edited 3:08:52 PM] tordavis: 25million xbox fans
[3:09:02 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): how long did it take the 360 to sell 25mill torrence
[3:09:04 PM] tordavis: and mind you most xbox 1 owners also owned a ps2
[3:09:04 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[3:09:15 PM] tordavis: doesn’t matter how long.
[3:09:28 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): exactly
[3:09:35 PM] tordavis: what?
[3:09:46 PM] tordavis: my point is that MS had an established fanbase
[3:09:59 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the 25 mill card only works if they wouldve all bought it day one
[3:10:07 PM] tordavis: NO IT DOESNT
[3:10:23 PM] tordavis: you don’t know what people have to do to get $399 to buy a new console
[3:10:26 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): thats like me saying oh well then 150 million ps2 users are gonna but a ps3 they might not
[3:10:27 PM] tordavis: WTF
[3:10:35 PM] tordavis: that’s like me saying PS3 should have sold 125mil day one
[3:10:43 PM] tordavis: where do you come up with this stuff
[3:10:57 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): thats what im saying so bringing up that 25mil dosent count
[3:11:01 PM] tordavis: The PS3 is still selling bro
[3:11:05 PM] tordavis: it hasn’t stopped
[3:11:18 PM] tordavis: I’m just saying that MS had an established fanbase
[3:11:30 PM] tordavis: I never said that it meant the 360 was automatically gonna sell 25mil
[3:11:46 PM] tordavis: when you have an established fanbase, you can count on sales
[3:11:50 PM] tordavis: that’s all that means
[3:11:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): gears wouldnt have made the playstation massess at the time think fuck waiting im buying that because taht didnt even happen when gears launched when the ps3 was nowhere to found
[3:12:03 PM] tordavis: you’re implying too much
[3:12:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok
[3:12:20 PM] tordavis: it’s not about waiting, it’s about wanting the games
[3:12:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): im just responding to you
[3:12:26 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok
[3:12:39 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but some people arent normal and wait
[3:12:53 PM] tordavis: ok so if you were waiting for a ps3, what games were you waiting for in 2005?
[3:12:58 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): if that wernt the cas more people wouldve bought gears
[3:13:17 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because its awesome and nothing was touching it at the time
[3:13:23 PM] tordavis: answer my question
[3:14:04 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): some people were just waiting for the console i remember playing pgr3 on my 360 and some guys were there like oh i cant wait for ps3
[3:14:08 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i was like wtf
[3:14:15 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): enjoy this shit shit now
[3:14:20 PM] tordavis: well that’s anticipation
[3:14:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): they were like nah
[3:14:26 PM] tordavis: we all have that
[3:14:30 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): see
[3:14:35 PM] tordavis: but if you want a game, you want a game. period.
[3:14:50 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): gears didnt pull the masses in though
[3:15:31 PM] tordavis: so wait, ps2 owners who already had something to play, couldn’t wait for the ps3 so the forked over $399 for a 360 to tide them over for a year? That makes no sense.
[3:15:33 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): it sold to its audience and bagged some hardcore gamers who were sitting on the fence
[3:15:44 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i did that
[3:15:50 PM] tordavis: you’re fucking crazy
[3:15:58 PM] tordavis: the 360 launch was terrible
[3:16:07 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i love hardware
[3:16:14 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i wanted the 360
[3:16:18 PM] tordavis: so you are the guy that caresses his consoles?
[3:16:20 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i liked the first xbox
[3:16:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): nah
[3:16:28 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[3:16:34 PM] tordavis: i’m still waiting for you to prove that i’m a fanboy
[3:16:48 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok
[3:17:04 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): have you read the comments section in n4g
[3:17:09 PM] tordavis: all the time
[3:17:11 PM] tordavis: with popcorn
[3:17:24 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): when a new ps3 exclusive is announced
[3:17:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[3:17:36 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): what do the 360 boys do
[3:17:49 PM] tordavis: nothing
[3:18:14 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): are you bleeping serious
[3:18:17 PM] tordavis: yeah
[3:18:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): w
[3:18:22 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): o
[3:18:24 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): w
[3:18:25 PM] tordavis: announcement threads are boring
[3:18:41 PM] tordavis: I do remember boycots over DMC4 going multiplat though
[3:18:43 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): or on any article about ps3 exclusives
[3:18:46 PM] tordavis: that was shameful
[3:18:52 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[3:18:59 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): fuck devil may cry too
[3:19:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): that game was shit
[3:19:07 PM] tordavis: yes it was
[3:19:12 PM] tordavis: after chapter 10
[3:19:19 PM] tordavis: 360 fanboys are all about sales
[3:19:24 PM] tordavis: and multiplat dominance
[3:19:38 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and should i tell you whats funny
[3:19:45 PM] tordavis: they gravitate to sales threads and comparison threads
[3:19:57 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): 360 fanboys are the equivilent of shit new school rappers
[3:20:20 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): all about what doesnt matter to the artistic culture of gaming/hiphop
[3:20:27 PM] tordavis: ok
[3:20:31 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): what about ORIGINALITY
[3:20:38 PM] tordavis: and yet you are calling me a 360 fanboy but haven’t proven it yet
[3:20:52 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): we keep digressing
[3:20:53 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok
[3:21:04 PM] tordavis: that was your major point wasn’t it?
[3:21:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): on the boards of n4g
[3:21:12 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): yup
[3:21:20 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): if you read em
[3:21:28 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the comments i mean
[3:21:55 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): antime a ps3 exclusive is in there it doesnt have to even be getting praised
[3:22:21 PM] tordavis: go ahead
[3:22:30 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): they start harping on about bullshit that doesnt have anythingf to do with the matter at hand
[3:22:40 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): talking about halo 3 sales
[3:23:02 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): now i wouldnt mind if halo 3 was recent but ummmmm
[3:23:25 PM] tordavis: ok
[3:23:31 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you mgiht as well talk about how mauch better the weather was when jesusu was alive
[3:23:35 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): now
[3:23:42 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): knowing all of this
[3:23:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and how 360 fans act
[3:24:30 PM] tordavis: zzz…
[3:24:33 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): your tiredness shouldve came from BOTH SIDES chatting shit and throwing cards at each other
[3:25:02 PM] tordavis: why would you care which side I pick on more?
[3:25:11 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): how could you be so tired of the uncharted 2 card
[3:25:21 PM] tordavis: cuz it gets played every day it seems
[3:25:26 PM] tordavis: and now hiphop is using it
[3:25:26 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): when people only started playing it after e3
[3:25:31 PM] tordavis: it means nothing
[3:25:35 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but ummmmm
[3:25:55 PM] tordavis: “torrence doesn’t like the U2 card, he must be an xbox 360 fanboy”
[3:25:56 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): xbots have been using the halo 3 card for years now and you aint said shit
[3:26:05 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): spin that
[3:26:08 PM] tordavis: then you didn’t watch the whole video
[3:26:17 PM] tordavis: come talk to me when you watch the whole video
[3:26:56 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i did actually
[3:26:59 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): BUT
[3:27:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you went in on the sony guys
[3:27:15 PM] tordavis: did you miss the part where I mentioned that 360 fanboys only care about bullshit sales talk>?
[3:27:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): as a judge and leader you shouldnt do that
[3:27:31 PM] tordavis: why?
[3:27:34 PM] tordavis: why not?
[3:27:52 PM] tordavis: and why would you care if you’re not a fanboy?
[3:27:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because you dont treat both sides equal
[3:28:06 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): im not a fanboy
[3:28:13 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i believe in you torrence
[3:28:17 PM] tordavis: when it comes to fanboys, it doesn’t matter. they don’t deserve any fair treatment.
[3:28:17 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): thats the thing
[3:28:59 PM] tordavis: i bet you if I spent an hour talking about 360 fanboys and 5mins on ps3 fanboys we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
[3:29:22 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): yeah but there fanboys on both sides and ps3 fanboyism started from bias media and 360 fanboyism started from cockiness but now is from fear of better titles
[3:30:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): like anyone who claims there a gamer and didnt check out the ps3 exclusives this year are a testament to that
[3:30:50 PM] tordavis: Did you read this? http://www.thebitbag.com/2008/12/16/why-all-the-ps3-hate/
[3:30:51 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i just think its sad because im dissapointed in all three manufacturers
[3:31:13 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but ms the most because there fans are k with mediocrity
[3:31:29 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok with nediocrity
[3:32:29 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): nice article yeah i read it
[3:32:53 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but that article is like when hiphop gamer does 360 news
[3:33:02 PM] tordavis: how come you aren’t asking me to write one about 360 hate?
[3:33:13 PM] tordavis: then i’d be giving both consoles equal time.
[3:33:16 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because it doesnt matter
[3:33:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the media are bias
[3:33:39 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): when gears 2 came out
[3:33:41 PM] tordavis: wait, how is that like when HHG does 360 news?!
[3:34:00 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): no body said this games good but really and truly its more of the same
[3:34:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): evrybody was like this fucking awesome its so new its so fresh
[3:34:38 PM] tordavis: as far as Gears goes, it’s all personal preference
[3:34:45 PM] tordavis: not even worth debating
[3:34:47 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): okokokokok
[3:34:58 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): do you think gears 2 is a true sequel
[3:35:03 PM] tordavis: yes
[3:35:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): is that what you wanted gears 2 to be
[3:35:16 PM] tordavis: but it’s story needs way more development
[3:35:26 PM] tordavis: i just wanted it to be goo
[3:35:27 PM] tordavis: d
[3:35:28 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): well maybe i just expect more from the 360 than do
[3:35:28 PM] tordavis: good
[3:35:39 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): than you do
[3:36:43 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because over here die hard 360 fans dont mess with gears 2 i think the story bwas great actually there just wasnt a leap from the first game to the second\
[3:36:55 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i cant believe epic got away with it
[3:39:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): also to add to the fanboy claim
[3:40:06 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you threw out the fact that the devs wouldve stuck with sony
[3:41:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i am like so totally smashing you right now btw
[3:41:22 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[3:41:29 PM] tordavis: LOL
[3:41:35 PM] tordavis: you haven’t smashed a pumpkin
[3:41:47 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): im waiting for you to counter
[3:41:49 PM] tordavis: you haven’t made any points or proven that I’m a 360 fanboy yet
[3:41:52 PM] tordavis: counter what?
[3:41:54 PM] tordavis: GEARs?
[3:42:22 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): nope
[3:42:27 PM] tordavis: what’s there to counter?
[3:42:41 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ummmm
[3:43:14 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): aiming most of your video at the ps3 fanboys
[3:43:18 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and
[3:43:24 PM] tordavis: that doesn’t make me a fanboy
[3:43:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the uncharted card
[3:43:30 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and
[3:43:35 PM] tordavis: halo card was mentioned
[3:43:41 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): excusing of the halo card
[3:44:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): it needed to be mentioned 8months ago
[3:44:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you didnt say anything on the warzone
[3:44:32 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): about the halo card
[3:44:42 PM] tordavis: so
[3:44:43 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you didnt say both of you stop it
[3:44:50 PM] tordavis: no one was playing the halo card on the wz
[3:45:15 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so what bothered you about the uncharted card that didnt botther you about the halo card eh
[3:45:34 PM] tordavis: no one played the halo card on friday
[3:45:39 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because theve been playing that card for alloooooooooooooooong time
[3:45:47 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so
[3:45:48 PM] tordavis: what bothered me was that HHG played the U2 card
[3:45:51 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so
[3:46:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): as a leader you gotta like all of you shut the uff up
[3:46:35 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because he was playing that as a defence
[3:46:37 PM] tordavis: NO ONE PLAYED THE HALO CARD ON FRIDAY!
[3:46:58 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and reallly and truly he has every right to its gonna be a great game why cant you take that
[3:47:06 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so
[3:47:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you said
[3:47:26 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): im so sick of people always bringin it up
[3:47:31 PM] tordavis: yes
[3:47:35 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you didnt say hipho
[3:47:40 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): hiphop
[3:47:43 PM] tordavis: zzz…
[3:47:49 PM] tordavis: where’s the real challenge?
[3:47:56 PM] tordavis:
[3:47:57 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): what dont you understand
[3:48:11 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sounds like your trying to duck
[3:49:18 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so why did the UC2 make you sick after less than 2 months
[3:50:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): while the halo card like nothing
[3:50:58 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and you didnt stop your staff from going in on hiphop
[3:51:17 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): when you know they were chatting fraff
[3:53:01 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and in that same argument your staff member said resistance looks like shit
[3:53:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you didnt say shit
[3:53:40 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): when hiphop said the same about a 360 game
[3:53:46 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you stopped him
[3:54:26 PM] tordavis: on phone hold on
[4:00:01 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): as soon as he had a valid point to defend the ps3 you cut him off saying its not about which launch title looks better
[4:00:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you did say resistance looks beautiful but that sounded like a disclaimer
[4:06:13 PM] tordavis: ok finally
[4:06:16 PM] tordavis: let me catch up
[4:06:59 PM] tordavis: sounded like a disclaimer
[4:07:00 PM] tordavis: LOL
[4:07:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): its true
[4:07:12 PM] tordavis: so all of this makes me a 360 fanboy
[4:07:19 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): im not saying you didnt mean it
[4:07:40 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): your blatantly one sided
[4:07:41 PM] tordavis: after I basically shut up one of my staff members to tell them how awesome Resistance 2 looked?
[4:07:47 PM] tordavis: you are a trip
[4:07:54 PM] tordavis: you haven’t proved shit
[4:08:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you didnt shut him up
[4:08:07 PM] tordavis: yes I did
[4:08:07 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ummmmm
[4:08:12 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): nope
[4:08:28 PM] tordavis: I said HOLD UP, Resistance 2 looks incredible. but we may be talking different episodes
[4:08:34 PM] tordavis: cuz I’ve done it more than once
[4:08:38 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[4:08:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the im talking about you let him bash resistance
[4:09:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): then when hiphop had a point
[4:09:11 PM] tordavis: so if I defend the 360, I’m a 360 fanboy but if I defend PS3 it’s a disclaimer
[4:09:13 PM] tordavis: hilarious
[4:09:33 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[4:09:37 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): no
[4:09:44 PM] tordavis: that’s what it sounds like to me
[4:09:52 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): im saying that one time it sounded like a disclaimer
[4:10:00 PM] tordavis: uh huh
[4:10:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): on the regular you lean towards the 360
[4:10:23 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): oh yeah
[4:10:28 PM] tordavis: and as far as the halo 3 card goes, I don’t see it anymore and if I do it’s sales talk anyways and I try to ignore it. Halo 3 is so…2k7
[4:10:40 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): that whole exclusives dont matter arguement
[4:10:43 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): wtf
[4:10:46 PM] tordavis: ok let’s get into that’
[4:11:00 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): if that isnt some buhull shit
[4:11:01 PM] tordavis: I’ve already explained myself 800 times but I’ll do it 801 for you
[4:11:12 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so hold up
[4:11:17 PM] tordavis: go first. state your argument
[4:11:41 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you ignore the year old halo card but the barely 2month old U2 card pisses you off
[4:11:46 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): FANBOY
[4:11:53 PM] tordavis: whatever
[4:12:02 PM] tordavis: i guess in your eyes i’m a fanboy
[4:12:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you just said that though
[4:12:16 PM] tordavis: and when people say ps3 has no games THAT pisses me off even more.
[4:12:17 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): not me
[4:12:18 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you
[4:12:22 PM] tordavis: so I guess i’m a ps3 fanboy too
[4:12:43 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): well youve never smashed on a warzone AND a video about that
[4:12:59 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so when you do ill be watching
[4:13:26 PM] tordavis: I did do it on the warzone
[4:13:45 PM] tordavis: see we are 54 episodes deep and i you haven’t listened to each and everyone of them you have no ground to stand on
[4:13:56 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok
[4:13:58 PM] tordavis: I dissed soulja boy for making that statement
[4:14:08 PM] tordavis: said he was a fool
[4:14:18 PM] tordavis: and he’s making himself look stupid
[4:14:31 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but hey its the present and ive been listening since 31
[4:14:39 PM] tordavis: I could go on for days but I’m not going to list every 360 and PS3 defense I’ve made just for you.
[4:14:48 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and youve been singing the same tune
[4:15:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): do it for for you
[4:15:05 PM] tordavis: (music)
[4:15:06 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so afr
[4:15:11 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so far
[4:15:36 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): youve said the UC2 pisses you off but the halo card is fine
[4:15:45 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and that exclusives dont matter
[4:15:49 PM] tordavis: no i didn’t
[4:15:52 PM] tordavis: stop being stupid
[4:15:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you did
[4:15:59 PM] tordavis: I said the halo card was bullshit too
[4:16:04 PM] tordavis: in the fucking video
[4:16:11 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): it was one of the topics on warzone
[4:16:30 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): really
[4:16:43 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but it was the uc2 card that pissed you off
[4:16:45 PM] tordavis: i got an idea, I’ll add a computer to my body and give you the ip address and you can program me to say whatever you want me to say before every warzone
[4:16:58 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[4:17:00 PM] tordavis: why in the FUCK would I bring up the halo card when someone mentioned U2?
[4:17:13 PM] tordavis: why!?!?!?1?
[4:17:18 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): to get rid of the whole problem
[4:17:25 PM] tordavis: that doesn’t make any sense
[4:17:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): rather than 35 percent
[4:17:35 PM] tordavis: he mentioned U2
[4:17:37 PM] tordavis: not halo
[4:17:44 PM] tordavis: no one mentioned halo 3
[4:17:44 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): yeah
[4:17:48 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but
[4:18:17 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): whats wroing with talking about a new game
[4:18:40 PM] tordavis: well this week I’ll talk about coke and pepsi or herseys and nestles or ford and honda. In fact, I’ll talk about a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with the topic so that the whole world feels comfortable while listening
[4:18:47 PM] tordavis: there’s nothing wrong with talking about a new game
[4:18:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): no
[4:18:58 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): do you
[4:19:05 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but admit your pro ms
[4:19:09 PM] tordavis: but playing the U2 card as a defense for how good games look on another system is fucking bullshit
[4:19:13 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because saying your not
[4:19:30 PM] tordavis: gameplay, looks, story, sound…it’s all subjective!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[4:19:37 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and then saying shit like oh exclusives arent important
[4:19:39 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): is silly
[4:19:43 PM] tordavis: ok let’s get into that
[4:19:52 PM] tordavis: what’s your argument on what I said about exclusives!?!?!?
[4:19:53 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but
[4:20:37 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you were chatting about how sony fanboys throw there exclusives in xbots faces when exclusives arent important
[4:21:08 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): thats fanboyed out
[4:21:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): real fanboyed out
[4:22:38 PM] tordavis: hold on…stock room
[4:22:44 PM] tordavis: i’ll answer that
[4:22:50 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ill be waiting
[4:26:02 PM] tordavis: ok
[4:26:15 PM] tordavis: I said…exclusives aren’t important to me
[4:26:27 PM] tordavis: and the question was, what’s more important, exclusives or DLC
[4:26:31 PM] tordavis: I choose dlc
[4:26:45 PM] tordavis: when you have all the systems, you don’t care about what’s exclusives cuz you can play everything
[4:26:48 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): no you said not important in general
[4:26:55 PM] tordavis: when I game comes out that I like, I buy it
[4:27:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): well that wasnt your consensus on the warzone
[4:27:11 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): and
[4:27:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you prefer dlc to a full retail game
[4:27:30 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok
[4:27:39 PM] tordavis: NO I said using the “Playstation 3 has more exclusives” argument was stupid because all 3 consoles have exclusives and the multiplat games are the ones that sell the most.
[4:27:48 PM] tordavis: see, there is where you are blind
[4:27:55 PM] tordavis: I never said I prefer dlc to a retail game
[4:27:56 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): if that doesnt sound like fanboy shit not even jesus can show you the late
[4:27:59 PM] tordavis: you missed the whole point
[4:28:05 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok
[4:28:12 PM] tordavis: in one ear and out the other with nothing actually understood
[4:28:13 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): fuck what sells the most
[4:28:29 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): wack rappers sell more than genius
[4:28:38 PM] tordavis: where did I say I prefer dlc to a new game?
[4:28:39 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): what matters is the quality
[4:28:51 PM] tordavis: I said the exclusives are less important to me than dlc
[4:29:06 PM] tordavis: dlc extends the life of great games (fallout 3, red faction, etc)
[4:29:07 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): tordavis
21:22
ok
21:23

I said…exclusives aren’t important to me
21:23

and the question was, what’s more important, exclusives or DLC
21:23

I choose dlc
21:23

when you have all the systems, you don’t care about what’s exclusives cuz you can play everything
[4:29:24 PM] tordavis: I know what I typed
[4:29:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ummmmm your words not mine
[4:29:30 PM] tordavis: stop wasting bandwidth
[4:29:36 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): i didnt seem like it
[4:30:04 PM] tordavis: I can play games on all consoles. Why would exclusives be more important to me than dlc?
[4:30:08 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you do
[4:30:24 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but not everybody has that luxury
[4:30:59 PM] tordavis: and in general, exclusives shouldn’t matter because there are many GREAT games that are multiplat. Games are games…doesn’t matter what console they play on. if you are a single console owner and there’s an exclusive you can’t play…well…that might bother you.
[4:31:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): so exclusives do matter
[4:31:08 PM] tordavis: it’s not a luxury. I work hard for my shit
[4:31:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but
[4:31:14 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[4:31:14 PM] tordavis: not to me they dont
[4:31:18 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you know what i mean
[4:31:22 PM] tordavis: no I don’t actually
[4:31:31 PM] tordavis: you didn’t explain why YOU think they are more important than dlc
[4:31:36 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ok but its not just you talking to yourself
[4:31:42 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): people are listening
[4:31:53 PM] tordavis: oh and btw, you can’t have dlc if you didn’t buy the game in the first place. so you have to have the game first, exclusive or not, to get the dlc
[4:31:55 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): some of them trust your judgement
[4:32:03 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): yup
[4:32:23 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but
[4:32:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): dlc
[4:32:35 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): instead of a new AAA game
[4:32:41 PM] tordavis: look, if I say exclusives are less important to me and someone just decides that they are now less important to them because they like my opinion well…they need to grow up and get a mind of their own.
[4:32:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): most gamers in there right mind would choose the AAA
[4:32:57 PM] tordavis: it’s not either or
[4:33:05 PM] tordavis: i’ll take both, but dlc is more important
[4:33:30 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): yup thats true but on the warzone that wasnt your arguement
[4:33:48 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): multiplats are good
[4:33:51 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but
[4:34:08 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): its the exclusives that are the real bread and butter
[4:34:16 PM] tordavis: i never said I wouldn’t buy fucking games anymore
[4:34:20 PM] tordavis: what bread and butter?!
[4:34:27 PM] tordavis: WHAT IN THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
[4:34:30 PM] tordavis: A FUCKING GAME IS A GAME
[4:34:33 PM] tordavis: PERIOD
[4:34:41 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): multiplats only started becoming regular last gen because ms have no talent
[4:34:42 PM] tordavis: doesnt’ matter if it’s exclusive or not
[4:34:44 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): in house
[4:34:52 PM] tordavis: what?
[4:34:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ummmm
[4:35:07 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): exclusives give a console identity
[4:35:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): swagger
[4:35:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): a feel
[4:35:35 PM] tordavis: Turn 10, Lionhead, Bungie(at the time)
[4:35:42 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ummmm
[4:35:44 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): yeah
[4:35:52 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): hardly worldclass
[4:35:59 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): fanboy answer
[4:36:01 PM] tordavis: that’s you’re opinion
[4:36:04 PM] tordavis: omfg
[4:36:07 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): what
[4:36:10 PM] tordavis: i just figured something out
[4:36:16 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): compare that to nintendos in house
[4:36:27 PM] tordavis: and…what’s your point?
[4:36:40 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): when lionhead produces a game on mario level holla at me
[4:36:47 PM] tordavis: are you trying to say that exclusive games are better in general?!
[4:37:01 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): well usually they are
[4:37:05 PM] tordavis: I’m debating with a righteous gaming zealot.
[4:37:09 PM] tordavis: I’m wasting my time
[4:37:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): nope
[4:37:14 PM] tordavis: yes
[4:37:18 PM] tordavis: you have no point
[4:37:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): explain
[4:37:40 PM] tordavis: you aren’t making any points
[4:37:44 PM] tordavis: you haven’t proved anything
[4:37:45 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): your actually ducking questions and not answering them
[4:37:47 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ummmmm
[4:37:50 PM] tordavis: i’m not ducking shit
[4:37:55 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): what are YOU talking about
[4:37:58 PM] tordavis: you are asking dumb fucking questions
[4:38:00 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sega
[4:38:08 PM] tordavis: exclusives give your console swagger?! LOL
[4:38:19 PM] tordavis: jesus fucking christ
[4:38:19 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): wouldnt have been shit without there exclusives
[4:38:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): right
[4:38:26 PM] tordavis: games are games
[4:38:28 PM] tordavis: period
[4:38:35 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): answer my question
[4:38:37 PM] tordavis: I play games, not consoles
[4:38:47 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): answer my quetion
[4:38:58 PM] tordavis: i dont’ see any questions
[4:39:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sega nintendo wouldnt have been nothing without there exclusives
[4:39:27 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): the same for sony
[4:39:30 PM] tordavis: wouldn’t have been nothing…
[4:39:35 PM] tordavis: I dont agree
[4:39:39 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): theyd be atari
[4:39:45 PM] tordavis: i don’t agree
[4:39:49 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): why not
[4:40:00 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): whats your point
[4:40:08 PM] tordavis: when you say they wouldn’t have been nothing, what do you mean?
[4:40:39 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): there consoles wouldnt have been what they were had they not had there exclusives
[4:40:58 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): nintendo defined themselves as the casual hardcore
[4:41:08 PM] tordavis: there consoles never changed
[4:41:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): sega was the cool hardcore
[4:41:21 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): im not saying they did listen
[4:41:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): now
[4:41:28 PM] tordavis: dreamcast had some of the best games of their generation and look what happened to them
[4:41:48 PM] tordavis: i dont’ care what you have for exclusives, it takes more than good games to survive. we’ve seen this many times before
[4:41:55 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): yeah but remember as i said before sont fooled everyone with dvd
[4:42:00 PM] tordavis: ok
[4:42:09 PM] tordavis: well I’ve reached my chatting limit with you
[4:42:10 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because no one was playing ps2 games when it dropped
[4:42:16 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): ahhhhaaaa
[4:42:17 PM] tordavis: I really feel like I’m talking to a rigz
[4:42:25 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you a fanboy
[4:42:31 PM] tordavis: i’ll see you on the warzone where I can yell openly
[4:42:38 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): lol
[4:42:40 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): what day
[4:42:44 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): by the way
[4:42:46 PM] tordavis: cuz you haven’t made one fucking point this whole conversation
[4:42:50 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): T
[4:42:54 PM] tordavis: friday
[4:42:55 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): its all love
[4:42:59 PM] tordavis: it’s all crazy
[4:43:09 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): but you really cant say that
[4:43:14 PM] tordavis: yes I can
[4:43:18 PM] tordavis: i have typed proof
[4:43:31 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): because you havent answered my questions and dodged every point
[4:43:34 PM] tordavis: not once this convo have you called me a ps3 fanboy for defending the ps3
[4:43:36 PM] tordavis: not once
[4:43:39 PM] tordavis: ok
[4:43:54 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): did i need to i said fuck sony
i never came across as a fanboy its not like im trying to sell you on ps3
[4:45:11 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): by the way love how you saidUC2 only got praise because ODST wasnt shown much
[4:45:34 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): doesnt matter its halo
[4:45:38 PM] tordavis: at least we agree on something
[4:45:58 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): that was sarcasm
[4:46:13 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): you didnt give uc2 any merit
[4:46:19 PM] Mai lieu 2(kanadas out): what so ever