I was chatting with blip74 from Gamesonsmash.com after he posed the question, “who would take a risk on a MS handlheld being that the console is so faulty?”. I’d like you to answer the question in the comment sections.
[10:06:31 AM] blip74: finally watchin hhgs, and who would take a risk on a MS handlheld being that the console is so faulty?
[10:07:58 AM] tordavis: The original xbox 360’s were faulty
[10:08:04 AM] tordavis: you could say the same for the ps2
[10:08:17 AM] tordavis: “who would take a chance on the PS3 with the PS2’s being so faulty”
[10:08:25 AM] blip74: don’t get butt hurt.
[10:08:31 AM] tordavis: I’m not
[10:08:35 AM] tordavis: just a little reality
[10:08:42 AM] tordavis: the xbox 1 was excellent hardware design
[10:08:47 AM] blip74: all 360’s were faulty
[10:08:50 AM] tordavis: this is an isolated issue
[10:08:54 AM] tordavis: no they aren’t
[10:09:03 AM] tordavis: My Jasper has no issues
[10:09:07 AM] blip74: (rofl)
[10:09:12 AM] tordavis: I’ve yet to see a report of a Jasper that has failed
[10:09:25 AM] blip74: (rofl)
[10:09:35 AM] tordavis: but again, PS2 failures were a given and people still bought Sony’s next console
[10:10:14 AM] blip74: what does ps2 have to do with the original statement?
[10:10:37 AM] tordavis: your point was that microsoft had hardware issues with the 360 so don’t trust them with any other hardware
[10:12:31 AM] blip74: my point was WHO? because of their MAJOR ISSUES i was simply asking a question. your trying to defend something that is totally defenseless.
[10:13:54 AM] tordavis: nah
[10:14:23 AM] tordavis: you’re a journalist. I can’t let you make those statements without checking you on them
[10:15:03 AM] tordavis: all I’m saying is if you ask yourself the same question about PS2 owners who had faulty hardware and bought PS3’s, you’ll find your answer
[10:15:48 AM] blip74: you can check me all you want, but my statement is FINE…ARE YOU AS A JOURNALIST TRYING TO TELL ME THAT THE 360′S FAILURE RATE IS DENDABLE?
[10:15:58 AM] blip74: DEFENDABLE?
[10:17:39 AM] blip74: WHAT ABOUT BEING A TRUE GAMER? BEFORE A TRUE GAMER YOUR A CONSUMER 1ST…TRY AND KEEP IT REAL.
[10:20:39 AM] blip74: if any co. fucked me over with faulty issues i would be salty. at the end of the day I don’t care about Sony and they don’t care about me. they fuck up and I’m jumpin ship if there is something better out there. REAL TALK
[10:21:34 AM] tordavis: I’m just saying…if you want to find the answer to your question, look at the PS2 failures and how many people who had to replace many PS2’s and still bought a PS3.
[10:21:49 AM] tordavis: No one is defending Microsoft
[10:21:54 AM] tordavis: they had faulty hardware
[10:22:02 AM] tordavis: plain and simple
[10:22:24 AM] tordavis: but it wouldn’t stop me from buying a new MS system in the future…like a handheld
[10:23:21 AM] blip74: NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE LVL OF 360 FAILURE RATE. i’m not saying they didn’t have issues cause they did, but I managed to have mine for 4+ years with no probs.
[10:23:59 AM] tordavis: I never had PS2 probs either and no xbox 1 problems
[10:24:11 AM] tordavis: but I know several people had had to buy at least 3 PS2’s
[10:24:41 AM] tordavis: you asked a question…you know how to find the answer
[10:25:40 AM] blip74: i know how to find the answer to a question, but i’m also entitled to ask a question to the community.
[10:25:51 AM] blip74: “If you can’t make it good, at least make it look good.”–Bill Gates, Microsoft
[10:26:14 AM] blip74: that says it all i have the entire article too
[10:26:36 AM] blip74: but that quote says it all
[10:28:59 AM] tordavis: Or how about this, “The next generation doesn’t start until we say it does.”
[10:29:21 AM] blip74: it didn’t
[10:29:31 AM] tordavis:
[10:29:43 AM] tordavis: (rofl)
[10:29:54 AM] tordavis: that’s my new quote
[10:29:56 AM] blip74: it was very cocky and should have been expressed diff, but TRUTH
[10:30:46 AM] tordavis: May I use this as a gamer chat and post your question?
[10:31:43 AM] blip74: I wish I was well versed on my HD so I could school you as to whats taking place now.
[10:31:55 AM] blip74: i don’t care
[10:32:14 AM] tordavis: HD?
[10:32:19 AM] tordavis: what are you talking about
[10:32:25 AM] tordavis: what’s taking place
[10:32:25 AM] blip74: you need it (rofl)
[10:32:32 AM] blip74: high def
[10:33:17 AM] tordavis: you’re not well versed? what’s taking place?
[10:33:21 AM] tordavis: you lost me.
[10:36:05 AM] blip74: ms is trying to run hd, but can’t. it didn’t start until sony entered the game and said it could not be acheived by ms.
[10:37:30 AM] tordavis: you’re joking right?
[10:38:33 AM] blip74: “I think if you talk to any developer they will tell you that they will not have a performing game at 1080p.” – Scott Henson, MS Exec, 2006
[10:39:33 AM] blip74: if I were well versed I would smash unstead of pulling and searching for quotes, but even still you can’t win this argument either.
[10:39:43 AM] tordavis: 1080p isn’t the only HD resolution
[10:40:03 AM] tordavis: HD is anything about 525 lines of resolution
[10:40:09 AM] tordavis: not about, over
[10:40:30 AM] tordavis: Microsoft has been doing HD since the Xbox 1
[10:40:54 AM] blip74: i know,but what they run is upscaled not a true naitive hd res because it was never in system at launch
[10:41:07 AM] blip74: (rofl)
[10:41:07 AM | Edited 10:41:37 AM] tordavis: 720p is a native resolution
[10:41:23 AM] tordavis: they have about 6 games that run in native 1080p
[10:41:40 AM] blip74: (rofl)
[10:41:46 AM] tordavis: the only thing TRUE in HD is audio
[10:41:50 AM] tordavis: there is no TRUE for video
[10:43:12 AM] blip74: i can’t comment on the games and whats true res or not, but the only thing true about 360 is true epic failure and true smoke and mirrors.
[10:43:40 AM] tordavis: now you’re changing the subject because, as Lauryn Hill would say, “You just lost one.”
[10:44:05 AM] tordavis: You should do some more research on HD and learn about what it really is so you don’t misinform your fans
[10:44:22 AM] blip74: read full article http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/03/microsoft-xbox-failure-departure/
[10:44:34 AM] tordavis: no thank you
[10:44:46 AM] tordavis: I want to hear from you, not some articles on the net
[10:45:04 AM] blip74: i’m not misinforming anyone
[10:47:04 AM] blip74: don’t want to hear the truth? I have nothing left to say. Since you don’t want read on article,I could be well edjucated on discussion, but it would be like talkin to a brick wall
[10:47:27 AM] tordavis: but you said yourself you need to learn more about HD.
[10:49:36 AM] blip74: to debate. as a consumer I can research and read between the lines and discover the truth for myself and what xbox is rendering is not TRUE NAITIVE HD PERIOD.
[10:50:21 AM] tordavis: Yes it is
[10:50:32 AM] tordavis: there’s no such thing as TRUE, but it is native
[10:51:28 AM] tordavis: before you can upscale anything what must you have? A native resolution. So if I set my Xbox to 1080p, it upscales from 720p to 1080p. 720p is the default native HD resolution for the dashboard.
[10:51:41 AM] tordavis: but you don’t own an xbox so I wouldn’t expect you to know that.
I don’t know if this is true or not but from what i’ve read Xbox 360 can’t output native 1080p resolution. I remember 360 didn’t even have HDMI until about a little over a year after it launched. Also the 360 HDMI port is version 1.2 which can only put out up to 1080i due to it’s speed in the cable. The PS3 has HDMI 1.3 which has a higher speed in the cable and can output native 1080p, 71. surround sound and support deep color. If this is true then the 360 only upscales to 1080p but can’t output native 1080p due to the HDMI port it has. If im wrong someone let me know so I don’t sound stupid if im asked about this topic by someone u wants to know this information thanks.
A lot of that is wrong, 360 can do native 1080p, as torrence said.Even HDMI 1.0 can do 1080p and you were right about PS3 can do 7.1 surround but i`m not sure if that`s because the HDMI version.
Component can do native 1080p… so thats the end of that story…
360 didnt come with hdmi out of the gate because you were lucky to find someone with a hdtv…. let alone a hdtv with multiple hdmi outputs… it just wasnt a standard output then.
If your a true audiophile and want perfect surround sound… you would not use the hdmi cord for your sound… you would be smart enough to buy and use the digital optic cables that are dedicated to just your audio….
And if you want to get really into it…. this is for your fight or HD tor with blip…. the xbox 360 is the only system that comes with HD right out the box… since ps3 does not offer hd cables… so yeah….
How can anyone defend the 360 at this point? Seriously check this link. http://www.atomicgamer.com/newsFeed.php?id=328277
Then you move on to how th ps2 had system failures. This is where you messed up. Although the ps2 did have problems it was not even close to how bad the 360 was. Another thing you may have seem to forgot was the fact Microsoft intentionally shipped broken units just to beat sony to launch. Claiming you would buy a handheld from a company that treats the customer this way makes we really ponder. Wouldnt you be pissed if your car broke down and you later found out they purposely put a defective part in their. Its one thing to have defective hardware on accident, but its completely different when you ship your product knowing it will break down. I will make a firm prediction based upon logic and say that if ps4 and xbox 720 launch on the same day regardless of price difference people will remember all the hardaches they went through with shipping away their units several times. Call me a Sony fan all you want but I GUARANTEE YOU THIS, IF SONY EVER DID THIS SAME PRACTICE TO ME I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THEM.
And as far as the whole hd thing im not going to even bother commenting on that. We have debated that topic to death.
If I remember correctly… im pretty sure it was reported that the reason behind all of this rrod etc is due to the fact that they didnt bother doing some $40 million dollar system check thing to ensure the system wouldnt fail…. they decided to skimp on steps to save money on the system… which in the end cost them more money….. so I think they learned their lesson…
I would be mad at MS if they didnt do their 3 year warranty from all the problems caused…. but since they did I can forgive them….
So yeah… do you really think MS will make that mistake again… Highly unlikely….cost way too much.
The companies who usually had the biggest issues are the ones who will be the most cautious in the future so I woiuld probably have more faith in the next MS console then any other…… but ya never know they could be stupid and f up again… but unlikely…..
Its the same with when food companies have a bacteria issue and call all their products back…. people get scared and wont eat their products again even though they would have put in the strictest and most extreme rules and guidelines and will most likely be the cleanest in the industry, in order to make sure that it never happened again because they cant afford it too…..( used this example over the food scare in Canada a half a year ago)
Yea I guess the fact that they did offer free repairs was a repectable thing to do. But still it irritates me to no end. Its sort of like this new thing that developers ship their games broken. Why is it that this is allowed. It seems like now a days every multiplayer game I buy never works on day 1. Battlefield 1943, SOCOM, Call of Duty 4 just to name a few. In addition to what u said about will MS make mistakes again in the future I think their is a chance. Wasnt the orginal xbox full of many different problems? I know it was alot smaller but you would think that they would learn.
Bringing up the PS2 failures was a perfect rebuttal. If someone had gone through 3 PS2’s and still bought a PS3, that would answer blip’s original question. Just because a system is faulty, doesn’t mean all the victims are gonna stop supporting it. People who had PS2 failures still supported Sony. People who had 360 failures still support Microsoft. While Microsoft’s numbers are probably bigger, it’s not the rate of failure that we were debating. We were debating whether someone would continue to support a company after being burned by faulty hardware.
Let’s not get into the HD thing again. We all know that the 360 can do native 1080p and anyone who thinks it can’t is just making themself look stupid.
Oh?
wow this agrument was horrible i would not buy any hardware from a company that has a high failure rate why torrence why would you say you would buy a MS handheld wit the failure rate so high and bringing the ps2 in the argument didnt make any since we all know that the ps2 system failure rate was not as high as 360. so i guess torr would keep buying a car from the same dealer knowing it keeps fuckin up thats sad torr must be rich.about whole hd thing who cares 360 looks good in hidef but ps3 looks better considering i have the 360 at launch and dont have hdmi hookup. Everyone is on MS nuts just like every one was on SONY nuts wit the ps2 im sure by the end of the ps3 life cycle it will outsell 360. I hate how people always say people just buy a ps3 for a bluray player i wonder how many people bought the ps2 for the dvd player does anyone know.long as sony is selling those playstation u think they care if they just buy blurays? the media and the internet all r on MS nuts thats all.
just to let you know if your seuggesting that because your 360 is component it does not offer as good high def picture as your hdmi ps3… your sadly mistaken…. you most likely would never notice with the naked eye a visual difference made by the cables… especially since I doubt your running 50 foot cables as well…..
btw…. the longer the cable the less the hdmi cable becomes reliable… but usually depends on the source it is connected to…. in order to determine how much the video will degrade over the distance.
Thanks for the info, now I know the HDMI versions don’t matter if something can output 1080p or not.
O hey one thing I was reading tho is that some of the older tvs dont support 1080p in their component…. so some people need to check their tv manuals etc… I know mine does 1080p but some tvs only support 1080p hdmi and 1080i for the component… I dont think the newer tvs do this tho…. but its always good to check.
Blip sounded like a fool the entire time. He was just stating fanboy talking points like those morons on fox news.
As for the 360 failure rate yes it was horrible and for myself I had 1 xbox 360 go bad in 3 years 5 month ans I had 3 ps2s in that time frame and like 4 ps1s between me and my bro. The ps 1 and ps2 had the same exact faults and that was the dre so it took Sony to fuck ups to learn a lesson . In the mean time they did nothingfor the consumer. I think there wasn’t sch a big uproar over the ps hardware problems because 1 they aren’t ms and 1 because there were work arounds for the dre like openng the system and fuckng with the white gear or play the games with the system upside down.
Blips a fool
Another reason why PS1 and PS2 didnt get a lot of attention on hardware problems was because the internet wasn’t as big as it is now…. and neither was the gaming industry…..
Over the past few years the gaming industry has exploded and become extremly huge and the internet has exploded more and more with phones etc being online… people writing blogs etc its just grown sooooo much that its uncontrollable so now everything gets intensified more then usual…. hence the 360/ps3 is go to die articles etc now… the internet is now fool proof…. any moron can use it and make websites etc
Also there’s nothing wrong with the resolution of 720 . I hate when people bring up resolution. And I can’t stand when people judge a games ” quality” by it’s visuals
I just read some shit from that novell site an I call bs on the statement of ms losing 7 billion from the xbox division, if that wS true it would have been released to the public for the investors I had something else to say but I forgot it while correcting my itouches spelling fuck ups
ahaha dood torrence you smashed blip74 seriously with that hole ps2 issues and its true cause i had to get at least 3 ps2’s. I should have learnd to bitch at sony at one point but no i kept just buying new ones oh well ahahahaha.
To all the people who had faulty PS2’s were most likely disc read errors problems. Do you know why people would get this error. They would get this the error when there laser in their ps2 was dirty and because of that the laser couldn’t read the disc. That why the PS2 would last for about a year and a couple of months before it would get this error and couldn’t play PS2 games anymore. So really PS2 wasn’t faulty, the laser just would get dirty. All you would have to do to fix it, is to buy a can of compress air and open your ps2 disc tray and spray a little air inside to get the dust or dirt off the laser and after that the PS2 would work as good as new. You can also do this to your PS3 and 360 if they stop reading your games.
Wasn’t the case for my phat PS2. The PS2 tray would simply jam so in order to open it I had to take the part with the PS2 logo off of the tray so it would open. After a while the tray would simply no longer open.
The PS2 slim I had two of those and the top tray would not close so I had to sit the slim upside down in order for the tray to stay closed and read the disc.
None of these issues stopped me from purchasing a PS3.
I will also point out that people need to stop assuming everyone has had RROD or E74. I have three 360’s and one of them is a December 2005 launch model. I have a replacement plan from Best Buy so even if I had the issue I have the option along with MS 3 year warranty that no other company has bothered to do in the past to cover that issue if ever it was brought up. RROD has not stopped the sales of the 360 and developers have not stopped supporting it. This is hard for people to accept but RROD is not as big as everyone likes to claim. Especially after the latest updates to the system. It can still happen but trying to claim that everyone will experience it is simply bullshit.
There are people that own a PS3 that have had disc and YLOD issues yet never had issues with a PS2 before.
Life goes on and so will gaming.
Wtf do you do to your disc trays lol karate chop-em. I have never in my life have met anyone with a PS2 and there problem with it was the tray. It was always the disc read error problem, look at SixAmpFuze first comment the problem he had with all of his PS1’s and PS2’s was the dre (disc read error). The PS2 only main problem I repeat only main problem was the disc read error and that’s it. but it was just dirt or dust on the laser that cause this problem. In which can happen to any disc reader. If your cd/dvd player get dirt or dust on the laser it won’t read the disc either.
Oh and the only reason why Microsoft has 3 year warranty and no other company has done it in the past for a game console before, is because there were so much defective 360’s in the beginning that Microsoft had no choice but to give out 3 year warranty’s or else they would have got thier asses sued sooner or later good thing they gave the people warranty’s sooner. Mircosoft did charge to fix 360’s in the beginning some people forget that sometimes.
As you point out that Microsoft charged to fix the RROD you forget to point out they refunded customers that paid to have it fixed. Again MS had a choice and they made their choice. Either get sued like you said or step up and handle it themselves. In the end they have shown that even though they fucked up they continue to support their product. Thats all you can ask from a consumers point of view. At least they are taking care of the consumer. Have people stopped buying the 360? Have they stopped purchasing games for it?
As far as the PS2 trays on the phat and slim that would be called cheap plastic. Still didn’t stop me from buying a PS3. I am not going to guess how many consumers choose not to pick up a PS3 because of their experience with the PS2 or they just chose to pick up the 360 and not give a damn. When you get those numbers for us then please share your findings. Guessing doesn’t work.
Oh and as far as the discussion about HD lets not forget Sony and the dreaded downscale of games that happen to this day to 480p if your display doesn’t support 720p resolution.
Also one of the main reasons why anyone who doesn’t own a 360 brings up RROD is because this generation has not gone as they predicted it to go since 2006.
As far a disks trays go there all pretty much the same you know cheap plastic and all that. Im not going to argue over disks trays lol. Anyways I don’t know if Microsoft refunded every person that paid to fix their RROD 360’s in the beginning. but I seriously doubt they paid back everybody. I mean come on now this is the same company that laid off some of there employees and ask them for some of the money back from there last pay check because Microsoft thought they gave them to much.
As far as how many people who bought the a 360 instead of a PS3 because of there Problems they had with there PS2, I really could careless what people buy. This is all i can tell the people reading this comment buy shit that you want. If a Xbox hand-held came out and it had awesome games on it I would buy it. As to your other reply i don’t know if it was pointed towards me or what ever but I have every Console this generation and also a PSP. I’m no fanboy i just don’t agree with Microsoft business tactics from time to time thats all.
Nope my last comment was not directed at you.
dude dirt had nothing to do with the ps1 & ps2 dre problems.It was the hardware its a fact there was drive problems and to resolve the problem you could adjust a white gear or play games with the system upside down
Yes the dust on the laser lense is what causes disc read error look it up man. I have fix alot of PS2’s believe me. I like the Slims because the laser is right there when you open the tray and its easy to clean with a soft cloth and some alcohol
T.Davis wrote >
[10:39:43 AM] tordavis: 1080p isn’t the only HD resolution
[10:40:03 AM] tordavis: HD is anything about 525 lines of resolution
[10:40:09 AM] tordavis: not about, over
[10:40:30 AM] tordavis: Microsoft has been doing HD since the Xbox 1
Actually Torrence, that’s not right…
As far as TV sets go…
Anything at 1280×720 (720p) or higher is classed as HD (High Definition).
Anything at 720×576 (PAL EU) or lower (n.b. NTSC) is classed as SD (Standard Definition).
Anything between these two is classed as being high-resolution / sub-HD. For example, GT4 on PS2 has a high-resolution mode but it is not HD. PC (monitor resolutions) have other definitions and I won’t go into those here.
You are quite right about the tag of “True HD”, there is no such label for video / images and for good reason. Anyone ever using this tag should have to qualify it in some capacity.
* True HD (1920×1080) could be interpreted as having a native res of 1920×1080 – not just a 1080p signal.
* True HD (1280×720) could be interpreted as having a native res of 1280×720 – not just a 720p signal.
* True HD (1920×540) could be interpreted as having a native res of 1920×540 – not just a 1080i signal.
Ergo, the only good reason to use the word “True” would be to clarify that the native resolution matches the output signal and that the output isn’t a result of upscaling. That is what people seem to mean when they use the tag “True HD”, but frankly – as has been said – there is no official term & means nothing on its own, so requires some qualification / clarification. Otherwise, don’t use it.
Tor did the usual. When some someone brings up the 360 and failure rates. You bring up the PS2.
I like to call it. When in doubt, bring up the PS2.
But … NO ONE wants to hear about the PS2 & PSP at E3. amirite? (I read that hear on this exact site, btw) It’s only fair to talk about things that fit your argument. See it everyday. (Not here. Just in general)
Also the PS2 failure rates is/was nowhere as bad as the 360’s (rrod, disc scratching, E-74)
To answer the question though.
I wouldn’t buy an MS handheld at launch, and i would wait to see what games they offered. (What are they bringing new to the table that i should invest in their handheld?)
…. and multiplayer BETTER be free.
I don’t care how awesome a MS handheld could be. Charge for multiplayer = NO DEAL
“Why would Microsoft charge for multiplayer on a handheld?”
HAHAHAHA! It’s Microsoft, duh.
EDIT:
My above statements wasn’t a shot at Tor. It’s just what i’ve been seening since rrod started.
Seems like a defense mechanism.
What’s funny is. Where are all the ps2 related topics? Since, ya know, we’re talking about the ps2. (conviently)
“The ps2 isn’t releasing many ‘new’ games”
Exactly! But that isn’t stopping anyone from talking about ‘old’ ps2 problems.
ps2 problems = past
360 problems = present
That is all.
EDIT:
Another similar thing i see is the ps3 backwards compatability topics.
If people want BC sooo bad. Then, where are the ps2 related topics, again?
If you have ps2 games, then you must have a ps2.
… and if you love your ps2 games so much. Go buy another ps2 instaed of bitching about the ps3.
It’s funny that i’m saying this, and the ps2 won’t be talked about again for another couple months. (conviently)
That. Is. All.
Yet by your defintion a system that is prone with all types of errors and issues is still outselling one of the best systems built in the industry. I don’t need to provide proof when it is available for everyone to see. The system still sales and MS answered the call to fix them IF anyone has any of the issues you stated.
Your logic is flawed because you think that since they dont like to cover ps2 news anymore “because… well the system is old as hell and we have been in a new generation for almost 4 years” you do not think that they can reflect on the ps2s past? That is just moronic…. the ps2 had issues… we just dont know exactly how big they were because it wasnt publicized as much. With your logic they cant talk about past ps2 games… or the past history of any system because they dont cover any news on it now?
because the convo was about loyalty and torr brought up with all the PS1 and PS2 problems people still bought and supported them ebcause they liked them and thats the same thing people are doing with the 360.
I wish people would stop talking about the PS2, Dreamcast, GC & XBox (1) as if these consoles mean anything significant technologically today. Failure rates, okay… Resolutions, okay… It is yesterday’s technology people! How many people whilst in heated conversation over a Honda Civic or Toyota Prius, burst out some faffle about Ford Capri’s or Chevy Nova’s? Everyone knows modern cars are made of plastic and old school cars could live to rust! Really, who cares?!? Isn’t there enough to reference today for today’s arguments? Come on!
Now I say that, don’t think I’m anti-retro! I just think it is about time the bitbag gets a specific menu area / section for retro consoles & games. I’d also suggest the Warzone (podcast) follows suit with a dedicated topic where all ‘modern day tech vs old school tech’ comparative arguments could be relocated to. There’s obviously still plenty to say, plus I’m a great fan of old school tech, code & routines, I have plenty to say about it as I’m sure others do. Maybe there really should be a dedicated time & place to discuss it.
OOG:”With your logic they cant talk about past ps2 games…”
LoL! They don’t
Meaning. They don’t talk about it CONSISTENTLY like they do when RROD is brought up.
It’s funny. The ps2 has the most consoles in peoples homes, and yet, it’s rarely mentioned. Until RROD is brought up that is. If RROD is brought up, you can guarantee(sp) ps2/dre will be too.
I’m just saying. Equal time for the good and the bad.
Like that’s a bad thing.
Exp. How come no one talks about the ps2 being a dvd palyer?
OOG:”Your logic is flawed because you think that since they dont like to cover ps2 news anymore “because… well the system is old as hell and we have been in a new generation for almost 4 years” you do not think that they can reflect on the ps2s past”?
You’re wrong in your assumption.
I have NO IDEA why they don’t cover the ps2. That’s the ironic part. The fact is, they don’t. But it seems qute convient to bring it up every time rrod is brought up.
Of all of the concoles I have ever owned* the only one that failed on me was my PS2, but I had it for 7 years and played it pretty much nonstop.
*Sega Master System I&II, NES, SNES, Genesis, TG16, DC, PSOne, Saturn, PS2, GC, Xbox1, PS3, GB, GBA
I think the XBOX 360 failure rate was more publicized than any other console and there always seemed to be another failure story out there waiting to be told. Personally I haven’t found a single game that appeals to me enough to warrant purchasing a 360, but I would play some of the exclusives.
The handheld market hasn’t really interested me until recently. If I was uncertain about which handheld to buy, I definitely wouldn’t choose to purchase one made by Microsoft. I like the games on DS, but I hate the touch screen aspect of it. PSP Go is what I plan on getting.
I don’t hate Miscrosoft. I’m a fan of Zune and I do plan on getting Windows 7. I just don’t have any interest in a 360. The only thing that could get me to buy a 360 is some super badass fighting game or a really extensive retro collection of games. As much as I love and appreciate emulation nothing could top playing retro games on a console from my bed or couch.
I have to say I love the responses to this question.
I went through alot of ps2’s and ps1’s I kept buying them because I wanted to play the games and i swore I wouldnt buy the ps3 because of my problems with the old PS hardware and i never really liked the controller.Well after seeing all this shit about how great uncharted was i went out and got a ps3 and loveeee uncharted but still hate the controller. Its about the games people.
Blip looked like a foolish fanboy while torr was bringing up legitimate points
thats why i wait atleast a year after a new console comes out b4 i buy one. i’ve had my ps2 for 7 years and i’ve had no problems. and plus the bird is the word
If anyone gets a chance go back and listen to the Best of the Warzone 2 with Tor and HHG arguing over the Wii is competiion and HHG says it isn’t. I swear I think HHG tried and I say TRIED to come up with 15 analogies that didn’t even pan out as analogies. Went as low as trying to talk about his nephew who was 3 yrs old at the time in a foot race against him in comparision to the Wii and PS3. Lol talk about a desperate arguement.