All that video showed exactly what skeptics have talked about in large scale games like this. You end up running off on your own getting shot up just to respawn over and over and hopefully a few of your buddies have respawned also becuase all you see is a few guys together. 256 is nothing but a bullet point does nothing different than 50 or 30. Just a bigger cluster fuck. This game looks no different than the game that came out for the 360 except too much clutter on the screen with icons everywhere.
They should rename MAG to MGG (Massive Garbage Game)! They cant possibly sell that game in its current state with no single player. That was a mess of chaos.
mboohoojigga:”You end up running off on your own getting shot up just to respawn over and over”
-You do know this is the first time these guys are playing this game…..add to the mix they are going against developers and people who have already played this game.
Oh let me guess the first time you play on online FPS your ranking #1 every time cause by some miracle you are familiar with the map and know all the hot spots(end sarcasm)….noob.
This game looks FANTASTIC!!!…..get your boys/clan together…and you can own the entire map….It would be crazy…..
and to the Haters, especially xbots…this game has something you guys know nothing about….NO LAG…why? you ask….something that XBL doesn’t offer: Dedicated Servers..
If your going to hate on this game with out actually playing it….don’t waste your time.
Your right about one thing, Live operates on a peer to peer infrastructure while PSN operates on dedicated servers. Regardless of the infrastructure you still experience LAG. The only difference is if one person lags on PSN everyone doesn’t lag, unlike on LIVE when one person lags everyone is affected. There are games on Live that make use of dedicated servers such as Left 4 Dead and vice versa there are games on PSN that use a P2P network.
Dedicated servers are the key to what makes games like Warhawk (40), Killzone 2 (32) and MAG (256) have as many concurrent connections/players as they support. P2P just isn’t reliable enough to attempt to support that.
How am i wrong? I made sure to also state “There are games on Live that make use of dedicated servers such as Left 4 Dead and vice versa there are games on PSN that use a P2P network.” More games on Live use P2P then on PSN and more games on PSN use dedicated servers. Live’s infrastructure is based off of pure P2P like they said in your article purely up to the developer if “THEY” want to put up dedicated servers otherwise it’s running P2P. The only advantage i say dedicated servers offer is that unlike with a peer host lagging effects only the person experiencing it. P2P lag can effect everyone especially if it’s the host or if a host lags out or gets disconnected and it tries to assign a new host, horrendous times…
I own a PS3. Who am I hating on and why would I be jealous? I had little interest in the game and just becuase some of you circle jerk over 256 like some of you did over Resistance 2 doesn’t mean I can’t put an opinion of what I got to see at E3. It isn’t bringing anything new except 256 players. Other than that the screen looks cluttered and the theme is not any different than the game that came out for the 360. What difference does it make if I played it or watched a video of someone playing it like we did at E3? Some of your responses would still be the same as it is now because you want to get upset about an opinion that is different than yours.
When the game releases it will be the same scenario as we seen in all these other games that talk about large maps and that is simply a cluster fuck of people that end up just doing their own shit.
Then we get an ignorant post about XBOTS and lag. Please with the dedicated server shit already. Let me remind you AGAIN in case you missed it, I own a PS3 so pop off with that fanboy bs and get off the sensitive act over a damn console.
This part:
mboohoojigga:â€You end up running off on your own getting shot up just to respawn over and overâ€
-You do know this is the first time these guys are playing this game…..add to the mix they are going against developers and people who have already played this game.
Oh let me guess the first time you play on online FPS your ranking #1 every time cause by some miracle you are familiar with the map and know all the hot spots(end sarcasm)….noob.
-Was a direct to you and it’s true cause you couldn’t retort it.
This part:
and to the Haters, especially xbots…this game has something you guys know nothing about….NO LAG…why? you ask….something that XBL doesn’t offer: Dedicated Servers..
-Was directed to who ever the shoe fits. Notice I said Haters and Xbots…A MAG hater isn’t the same as an xbot. For all I know you could be a COD fanboy (on either system) and live and die that COD is the greatest FPS ever made. So whether you do/don’t own a PS3 wasn’t an issue. BTW COD on the PS3 does’nt have dedicated servers….MAG does.
BTW I LOVE the way you just brush off dedicated servers, like it doesn’t make online gameplay 100% times better. How can anyone hate on dedicated servers??????????
-You do know this is the first time these guys are playing this game…..add to the mix they are going against developers and people who have already played this game.
So what is your point? I still lost interest in it. You mad?
-Oh let me guess the first time you play on online FPS your ranking #1 every time cause by some miracle you are familiar with the map and know all the hot spots(end sarcasm)….noob.
You still live at home huh? I disrespected your lifestyle, for that I apologize.
-A MAG hater isn’t the same as an xbot. For all I know you could be a COD fanboy (on either system) and live and die that COD is the greatest FPS ever made
So shouldn’t I had said somthing about COD in my post then if I was this “COD fanboy” you speak of? Yes you assummed and this has nothing to do with my interest in MAG. But I see how sensitive you are by your responses.
-BTW I LOVE the way you just brush off dedicated servers, like it doesn’t make online gameplay 100% times better. How can anyone hate on dedicated servers??????????
Because I don’t need to argue with you or anyone about dedicated servers and it had nothing to do with the video or about my opinion about the game. I am fully aware it has dedicated servers just like other games available on the PS3. Yet I still spend more of my time on Live than PSN. “Damn MS for launching Live in 2002″
Next time you want to actually have a discussion don’t come out with this fanboy shit about dedicated servers or COD fanboy BS or I am a MAG hater. I see the game as a gimmick for the number and that is all it has going for it. I don’t see anything in addition to what is already available that I can regardles if it is COD or Halo 3. Yet anyone that thinks this is the best thing since slice bread I congrats on that.
Oh and dedicated servers do not make a game better if the online sucks to begin with as for as that thing we call fun gameplay. Who is gonna give a shit if it is dedicated or not if the game doesn’t hold your interest. You assume everyone is having a bad experience in games without dedicated servers when I don’t even need to defend that point. The facts are out there. Halo 3 and COD both do not run on dedicated servers yet they are the most played games online today.
Torrence man you guys always beef on the PS3 rigz. but when 360 rigz say shit its alright on this website. They can say all the bullshit and no one from the bitbag staff would say anything to set them straight,like when you see ps3 rigz do say stupid shit. I hate all rigz i have no respect for the rear takers of each company. I just want all rigz set straight Torrence not just PS3 rigz. Please respond alright peace. Oh ya and i also hate Sega rigz to lol.
So we go from talking about a game and then turn it into a fanboy. Come on this is why we all left N4G. We are tired of the same old bullshit comments like,
PSN SUCKS
XBOX IS FOR HOMOS,
PS3 HAS NO GAMES,
PS3 GAMES DONT SELL GOOD,
XBOX AND GEARS ARE XBOX’S ONLY GOOD GAMES.
Now Back to the video.
I think the game shows lots of potential although it still does look like an early build. To me the game doesn’t look like a ps2 game like other ppl said. From the looks of the battle it seemed like there were not 256 players in the battle. This is probably the main reason why it took him awhile to find someone. Also ppl complaining it brings nothing new to the table is just hilarious in itself. Not all games have to the ability to set new standards. There are many great games that use similar aspects of other games. I think MAG will succeed because it seems to me like they are taking what cod gives you and just adds to it. One thing I wish they would have added was a small campaign. There are alot of ppl who dont like buying games if they only contain a multiplayer. As gamers we should all see that a game does not need to innovate to be successful. It comes down to refinement if you ask me.
The thing i like about MAG is the top down, squad based structure. True WAR game, it’s a game nonetheless but it’s a more authentic structure of how real wars are fought.
MAG looks amazing, it amazes me that it dose not lag, i saw hundreds of gamplay videos and i never notice a lag.
this game will be HUGE!
All that video showed exactly what skeptics have talked about in large scale games like this. You end up running off on your own getting shot up just to respawn over and over and hopefully a few of your buddies have respawned also becuase all you see is a few guys together. 256 is nothing but a bullet point does nothing different than 50 or 30. Just a bigger cluster fuck. This game looks no different than the game that came out for the 360 except too much clutter on the screen with icons everywhere.
Quit being a hater jigga. BTW, I seen Erlfly in there too. Why he get no cred?
Kick Ass.
Jigga is a hater you 360 fanboy
They should rename MAG to MGG (Massive Garbage Game)! They cant possibly sell that game in its current state with no single player. That was a mess of chaos.
My early prediction: 100k sold 1st month.
@mboo&other
LMFAO……jealousy is written all over your posts..
mboohoojigga:”You end up running off on your own getting shot up just to respawn over and over”
-You do know this is the first time these guys are playing this game…..add to the mix they are going against developers and people who have already played this game.
Oh let me guess the first time you play on online FPS your ranking #1 every time cause by some miracle you are familiar with the map and know all the hot spots(end sarcasm)….noob.
This game looks FANTASTIC!!!…..get your boys/clan together…and you can own the entire map….It would be crazy…..
and to the Haters, especially xbots…this game has something you guys know nothing about….NO LAG…why? you ask….something that XBL doesn’t offer: Dedicated Servers..
If your going to hate on this game with out actually playing it….don’t waste your time.
Your right about one thing, Live operates on a peer to peer infrastructure while PSN operates on dedicated servers. Regardless of the infrastructure you still experience LAG. The only difference is if one person lags on PSN everyone doesn’t lag, unlike on LIVE when one person lags everyone is affected. There are games on Live that make use of dedicated servers such as Left 4 Dead and vice versa there are games on PSN that use a P2P network.
Dedicated servers are the key to what makes games like Warhawk (40), Killzone 2 (32) and MAG (256) have as many concurrent connections/players as they support. P2P just isn’t reliable enough to attempt to support that.
“Live operates on a peer to peer infrastructure while PSN operates on dedicated servers.”
Wrong. Both PSN and Live have dedicated and peer to peer systems. I wrote an article about it some time ago.
http://www.thebitbag.com/2008/09/03/dedicated-or-peer-that-is-the-question/
How am i wrong? I made sure to also state “There are games on Live that make use of dedicated servers such as Left 4 Dead and vice versa there are games on PSN that use a P2P network.” More games on Live use P2P then on PSN and more games on PSN use dedicated servers. Live’s infrastructure is based off of pure P2P like they said in your article purely up to the developer if “THEY” want to put up dedicated servers otherwise it’s running P2P. The only advantage i say dedicated servers offer is that unlike with a peer host lagging effects only the person experiencing it. P2P lag can effect everyone especially if it’s the host or if a host lags out or gets disconnected and it tries to assign a new host, horrendous times…
I own a PS3. Who am I hating on and why would I be jealous? I had little interest in the game and just becuase some of you circle jerk over 256 like some of you did over Resistance 2 doesn’t mean I can’t put an opinion of what I got to see at E3. It isn’t bringing anything new except 256 players. Other than that the screen looks cluttered and the theme is not any different than the game that came out for the 360. What difference does it make if I played it or watched a video of someone playing it like we did at E3? Some of your responses would still be the same as it is now because you want to get upset about an opinion that is different than yours.
When the game releases it will be the same scenario as we seen in all these other games that talk about large maps and that is simply a cluster fuck of people that end up just doing their own shit.
Then we get an ignorant post about XBOTS and lag. Please with the dedicated server shit already. Let me remind you AGAIN in case you missed it, I own a PS3 so pop off with that fanboy bs and get off the sensitive act over a damn console.
This part:
mboohoojigga:â€You end up running off on your own getting shot up just to respawn over and overâ€
-You do know this is the first time these guys are playing this game…..add to the mix they are going against developers and people who have already played this game.
Oh let me guess the first time you play on online FPS your ranking #1 every time cause by some miracle you are familiar with the map and know all the hot spots(end sarcasm)….noob.
-Was a direct to you and it’s true cause you couldn’t retort it.
This part:
and to the Haters, especially xbots…this game has something you guys know nothing about….NO LAG…why? you ask….something that XBL doesn’t offer: Dedicated Servers..
-Was directed to who ever the shoe fits. Notice I said Haters and Xbots…A MAG hater isn’t the same as an xbot. For all I know you could be a COD fanboy (on either system) and live and die that COD is the greatest FPS ever made. So whether you do/don’t own a PS3 wasn’t an issue. BTW COD on the PS3 does’nt have dedicated servers….MAG does.
BTW I LOVE the way you just brush off dedicated servers, like it doesn’t make online gameplay 100% times better. How can anyone hate on dedicated servers??????????
-You do know this is the first time these guys are playing this game…..add to the mix they are going against developers and people who have already played this game.
So what is your point? I still lost interest in it. You mad?
-Oh let me guess the first time you play on online FPS your ranking #1 every time cause by some miracle you are familiar with the map and know all the hot spots(end sarcasm)….noob.
You still live at home huh? I disrespected your lifestyle, for that I apologize.
-A MAG hater isn’t the same as an xbot. For all I know you could be a COD fanboy (on either system) and live and die that COD is the greatest FPS ever made
So shouldn’t I had said somthing about COD in my post then if I was this “COD fanboy” you speak of? Yes you assummed and this has nothing to do with my interest in MAG. But I see how sensitive you are by your responses.
-BTW I LOVE the way you just brush off dedicated servers, like it doesn’t make online gameplay 100% times better. How can anyone hate on dedicated servers??????????
Because I don’t need to argue with you or anyone about dedicated servers and it had nothing to do with the video or about my opinion about the game. I am fully aware it has dedicated servers just like other games available on the PS3. Yet I still spend more of my time on Live than PSN. “Damn MS for launching Live in 2002″
Next time you want to actually have a discussion don’t come out with this fanboy shit about dedicated servers or COD fanboy BS or I am a MAG hater. I see the game as a gimmick for the number and that is all it has going for it. I don’t see anything in addition to what is already available that I can regardles if it is COD or Halo 3. Yet anyone that thinks this is the best thing since slice bread I congrats on that.
Oh and dedicated servers do not make a game better if the online sucks to begin with as for as that thing we call fun gameplay. Who is gonna give a shit if it is dedicated or not if the game doesn’t hold your interest. You assume everyone is having a bad experience in games without dedicated servers when I don’t even need to defend that point. The facts are out there. Halo 3 and COD both do not run on dedicated servers yet they are the most played games online today.
Torrence man you guys always beef on the PS3 rigz. but when 360 rigz say shit its alright on this website. They can say all the bullshit and no one from the bitbag staff would say anything to set them straight,like when you see ps3 rigz do say stupid shit. I hate all rigz i have no respect for the rear takers of each company. I just want all rigz set straight Torrence not just PS3 rigz. Please respond alright peace. Oh ya and i also hate Sega rigz to lol.
LMFAO!
You said “rear” takers!
Blow hards are funny two…
You should definitely bring back fanboy of the week Torrence, but only for the bitbag. none of that n4g rig bullshit.
So we go from talking about a game and then turn it into a fanboy. Come on this is why we all left N4G. We are tired of the same old bullshit comments like,
PSN SUCKS
XBOX IS FOR HOMOS,
PS3 HAS NO GAMES,
PS3 GAMES DONT SELL GOOD,
XBOX AND GEARS ARE XBOX’S ONLY GOOD GAMES.
Now Back to the video.
I think the game shows lots of potential although it still does look like an early build. To me the game doesn’t look like a ps2 game like other ppl said. From the looks of the battle it seemed like there were not 256 players in the battle. This is probably the main reason why it took him awhile to find someone. Also ppl complaining it brings nothing new to the table is just hilarious in itself. Not all games have to the ability to set new standards. There are many great games that use similar aspects of other games. I think MAG will succeed because it seems to me like they are taking what cod gives you and just adds to it. One thing I wish they would have added was a small campaign. There are alot of ppl who dont like buying games if they only contain a multiplayer. As gamers we should all see that a game does not need to innovate to be successful. It comes down to refinement if you ask me.
The thing i like about MAG is the top down, squad based structure. True WAR game, it’s a game nonetheless but it’s a more authentic structure of how real wars are fought.
exactly the squad based objectives are what makes this game shine.