This is our second Best Of Warzone! On this episode we look back on some of the bigger debates we’ve had. We argued about the Nintendo Wii being in competition with the 360 and PS3. Hiphopgamer refuses to believe that the Wii is competing with the next gen platforms. I also play devils advocate and pose the question, “Is Killzone 2 going to take the PS3 to new levels?â€. This caused a huge debate between Erl_Fly and Hiphopgamer. It’s truly big laughs and whether or not you’ve heard these before, I think you’ll enjoy them. See you on the 16th!
January 3, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Best Of Warzone Vol. 2
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the wii will not sell if it was 600 bucks at regular price
This argument is funny because Hiphopgamer showed you up Torrence on his show.He went into a gamestop and asked some customers. if they would of bought the Wii if it was 600 dollars.The wii is going after a different audience than the next gen systems.The wii is going after the moms and pops and the other 2 systems are going after the gamers between the age of 15-35.The people that look at the games themselves rather than the gimmick of a wii sports or wii fit.A 65 year old grandmother is looking at the wii sports rather than fear 2 and vise versa with an 25 year old.I know I’m gonna get flamed for this but whatever.
haha right METtAL-GAMER
killzone 2 will not be like halo for the xbox cuz it will not have a big marketing campaign. when xbox came out halo was the shit like the only game xbox really had that was great
Torrence, you guys have to be bored to come up with that killzone skill argument.That is a stupid and pointless argument.Lets say one game has more skill than another.COD4 vs Halo 3.Say halo 3 has more skill.Which matters more?A game that has more skill or a game that is funner to play?The argument is pointless.
you need some sort of skill to play any game. erl_fly is an fucking tool lol
Forgot to add this but here it is.Ninja gaiden vs God of war.What has morre skill and what is funner to play?Ninja gaiden takes more skill but god of war is a better game.Just because one game takes more skill it doesn’t matter the least.
We said that COD4 was more fun than Halo 3, but Halo 3 required more skill. So yeah, agreed. HHG asking one mom if she would pay $600 for a Wii is not a good sampling. Look at all the people who paid $500+ for a Wii? Candid Anthony sold his for $900.
true the skill shit is pointless
Bucnasty, of course you need some sort of skill to play a game but some games are built differently and more complex to made them take more skill but I do agree with you about erl fly.Hes just saying this to takes shots at killzone.God of war takes minimal skill but it is an awesome game.
I think it was the actual gamers that bought wii’s online.It just doesn’t seem right for a 65 year old grandparent to go online and spend that kind of money but the wii argument isn’t gonna go anywhere so i will end that one here.
right i love the warzone man the shit is funny.
right we are in a recession people just want to play games at an afforable price and the wii is holding it down
its going to win this generation
Yo, Torrence.. You and your girlfriend anthony are wrong about COD and Halo. It requires more skill in COD, anyone who says different obviously don’t know gaming as much as they do. First off, I would have to say that Halo is more pray and spray. The reticle on all the halos stay the same regardless on how fast your moving, and it really is an older type of aiming system. In COD, You actually have to look down the sight as you would a real gun, and there is recoil for every gun, even pistols. Then there is sniping. Your gun doesn’t hold still while looking down the scope, but you can steady it by holding your breath. Then your gun goes all crazy after you held your breath for too long. How is that easier then Halo? Please explain in detail because I just explained why I KNOW COD requires more skill. I cant believe you even said such a thing.
Wow Torrence, wow. I have NO IDEA how you keep up with hiphop’s utter stupidity, unsound rants and contradiction. I listened to this and Warzone 24, about xbox arcade vs PSN games, and my brain almost exploded, luckily I just had enough energy to exit the podcast before I fainted. Odd enough, I can’t wait for more warzone. How is this a no fanboy zone anyway? Hiphop is obviously a fanboy without a logic. He doesn’t know the definition of competition and constantly avoids the subject. Not only that he seemingly slowly agrees with Torrence in this and warzone 24. But you and Candid caught on to it, and soon Hiphop has to think of another pointless, out-of-the-subject argument. He makes the entire PS3 community, including me, look like idiots. And no, I don’t own 360 nor Wii. Sorry if this harsh, because I know it is, but Hiphop, know when your wrong, and move on. Oh yeah, regarding the game which takes more skill, I’m going to say “who cares?”, like the rest of the people. But I find COD4 much more fun and might play it again, but for now, I’m pretty tired of the maps and just want to beat Bioshock and play SFHD.
“Yo, Torrence.. You and your girlfriend anthony are wrong about COD and Halo. It requires more skill in COD, anyone who says different obviously don’t know gaming as much as they do.” Says Dragonwarrior4. We explained in full detail on the podcast why Halo 3 required more skill. It’s as simple as this, you need to do several things to get kills. You have to deal with an electronic shield, shooting someone in the back yields no results and getting the jump on someone means nothing. Yeah, the rocket launcher and sniper rifle are pretty much one shot kills, but you can’t use them all the time. With COD4, someone can pick up the game who’s never played before and get a kill simply by pointing the gun and pressing the trigger first. It takes less skill. You don’t understand what spray and pray is. Yeah the reticle is more realistic in COD4 as it should be. Halo 3 is sci-fi so real life rules don’t apply. That’s another reason why it’s harder to get kills. Simple real life rules do not apply. I would also say the same for Gears. I think Gears takes more skill than COD4 too. Why? I think health regen is faster. Weapon choice, proximity and strategy play a bigger part. I don’t see why people get their panties in a bunch over one game requiring more skill than the other. We never said COD4 required NO SKILL, we said it required a lot less than Halo 3. BTW, COD4 on Hardcore mode is even less forgiving because it takes less shots to kill someone.
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No, your wrong Tor. Your reason for Halo requiring more skill is negate. Having putting more bullets into someone because they have overshield doesn’t make you more skillful. It the person with overshield has an advantage. There is nothing more skillful then that. Also, there are rpg’s and grenade launchers in COD. They are one shot kills as well. In COD you have to run from airstrikes, artillery strikes, helicopters, dogs. All of which in using or defending against requires skill. Sniping requires more skill alone then anything on Halo. Im sorry Tor but you need to just drop the discussion right now because everything you just said didn’t have any substance that makes what you said in your podcast and in this board sensible. But hey, its your opinion. My opinion is that Halo is a game perfect for newcomers to the genre. The main reason you are saying that it takes more skill is because it has balance issues with its guns and upgrades. Same goes with Gears 2, thats why I hate both games. The first to find said gun or knows the map better wins the match. That isn’t skill dude,, thats simply an advantage. There is a difference. Look it up in the dictionary.
Oh wait, im sorry to double post,, you dont have a edit button tab. But I just reread your post and the main reason why you say Halo requires more skill is because of the health system. Thats not skill, again thats an advantage. Then you say that a noob only has to point his gun to kill someone in COD. That right there makes no sense. IN COD, you cant point your gun because there is no reticle. Unless of course you look down the sight of your gun. If you played the game online, then you will know that all guns you start off with only have iron sights. So you actually have to aim with your gun’s sight which is not only more realistic, but requires skill because of the recoil, and unless youve shot a gun before, its really hard for beginners to kill. There are guns in the game that I still have problems using because of their sights,and Ive been playing the game since launch. I don’t know why I even care what you think? but I have to say something when people are just wrong about things when it comes to video games. I know im never gonna win this discussion just like HHG had trouble trying to explain to you guys you were wrong in the podcast. You and Anthony and that other white dude on your podcast are really ego maniacal and you always think what you guys say is the truth. Meh.
Erl_Fly get the fuck out of here halo 3 takes little to no skill, killzone 2 takes a shitload of skill thats why torrence was getting owned, and maybe if yo fanboy ass played the game more you would know there are head shots in there, you can’t “pray and spray” in killzone 2 I tried and I got owned quick, they made the game slow pace so you have to plan shit out and work in squads thats why it doesn’t control or play like cod 4 get yo facts stright dip-shit, and Iam call you a fanboy because you always cry like a little bitch about EVERYTHING you think sony does wrong you didn’t say shit about gears 2 glitches and match making problems.
DragonWarrior4@ I agree.
1- there is no real skill in FPS’s, 2- Cod 4 and halo are 2 differnent types of fps’s .Halo has no cover system and cod4 does. Cod4 is more about waiting and ducking and weaving while halo is more of a shoot em up.similar to unreal tournament. 3- Halo is more of a competitive type of game for 1on1 where cod would be better suited for teams . thats why halo has so many tournaments
The reason why Halo has held more tournaments is because its a microsoft product, and it was one of the best fps’s of all time last gen. I have to say Timeplitters still takes the cake for me last gen, but Halo was more mainstream, and xbox live is what help make it perfect for people to get together without have to do splitscreen and lan parties. As for it being more competitive,, things have changed, the gaming industry has changed. COD has been the most played game on both the ps3 and the 360.
@Dragonwarrior4 – “No, your wrong Tor.” No your wrong Dragonwarrior. It’s as simple as that. I play both games and when a noob with a gun in Halo 3 fires 20 rounds into another player and they don’t go down, they have to rethink their plan. Do the same in COD4 and the player goes down in about 5 rounds. It’s far easier for people to pick up and play COD4 than Halo 3. Skillset required for each game is a part of that. “In COD you have to run from airstrikes, artillery strikes, helicopters, dogs. ” There are no dogs or artillery strikes in COD4. “Sniping requires more skill alone then anything on Halo. ” Agreed. “Im sorry Tor but you need to just drop the discussion right now because everything you just said didn’t have any substance that makes what you said in your podcast and in this board sensible. But hey, its your opinion.” I can say the same about you. You said COD4 doesn’t have a reticle and it does. Do you know what a reticle is? If you play hardcore mode, there is no reticle except what you get from looking down your gun sights. “The first to find said gun or knows the map better wins the match.” While knowing the map helps, that’s a totally false statement. It is the case with KZ2 though because the shotgun and rocket launcher are over powered and you don’t have to find them. They’re given to you. Again, you are acting like we said KZ2 takes NO skill or COD4 takes NO skill. We didn’t say that. We said that they take less skill than Halo 3. I’ve over come my issues with KZ2 and can get a lot of kills. It’s about supressive burst fire. Burst fire is the key. Once you learn how to use it, you’ll get more kills. I think you are wrong and you think I’m wrong. Let’s agree to disagree. I could go all out and sit two noobs in front of both games and ask them which game they think is easier to get kills, but why bother? Just agree to disagree.
LOL.
The skill in Halo 3 is staying awake while you play the game. the only reason it seem like halo 3 takes a lot of skill is because of that shield. i think its not the game that determines the skill it take to play it. it the skill of the player you are playing with. I do think the people playing halo have more in playing halo then the people playing COD do at playing COD. that’s because 90% of the people that’s still playing halo 3 have been playing since halo 1 and 2 and the game hasn’t really change that much unlike COD 4 is a big step up from COD 3.
That souns about right but I will repeat what I said earlier.Who cares what game takes more skill as long as it’s fun to play?POINTLESS ARGUMENT.