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	<title>Comments on: Warzone #27 &#8211; Can The Xbox 360 Continue To Outsell The Playstation 3 If Sony Drops The Price?</title>
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		<title>By: Linkinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linkinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, I&#039;m new up here, just want to let you know my opinion on that matter. I do have both consoles and I think Sony can win MS with that console, just need to do some adjustments, and I think it&#039;s on that way right now. 
The integration with the web, at the moment users from PS3 can see the players who are online, still they need to do much work, place the trophy&#039;s available, messages, tags things like that.
Other thing that PS3 network needs is stability, It doesn&#039;t have at the moment, and it&#039;s not going to have that on the near future i guess, with home on the way, large amount of users, interconnection be twin servers and all... really cant se a good stable network.
The 3rd and final thing that is missing on PS3 is the independent  communication, would like to see ppl playing a single player game and chatting with other ppl.
Home i think is a great step, it&#039;s funny for the casual user, and can have many many nice things for gamers, It&#039;s a win win thing for PS3.
Afterall I think PS3 is a better console, the hardware and all, X-box did have 2 great and serious problems, dose wore piracy and RRD. At this moment we have developers worried about sell&#039;s, I don&#039;t know how are things in on the US, but here in Portugal 8 out of 10 are changed. 

PS. WOW ROCKS... I&#039;M AN ADDICT, and you&#039;r right It&#039;s crack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, I&#8217;m new up here, just want to let you know my opinion on that matter. I do have both consoles and I think Sony can win MS with that console, just need to do some adjustments, and I think it&#8217;s on that way right now.<br />
The integration with the web, at the moment users from PS3 can see the players who are online, still they need to do much work, place the trophy&#8217;s available, messages, tags things like that.<br />
Other thing that PS3 network needs is stability, It doesn&#8217;t have at the moment, and it&#8217;s not going to have that on the near future i guess, with home on the way, large amount of users, interconnection be twin servers and all&#8230; really cant se a good stable network.<br />
The 3rd and final thing that is missing on PS3 is the independent  communication, would like to see ppl playing a single player game and chatting with other ppl.<br />
Home i think is a great step, it&#8217;s funny for the casual user, and can have many many nice things for gamers, It&#8217;s a win win thing for PS3.<br />
Afterall I think PS3 is a better console, the hardware and all, X-box did have 2 great and serious problems, dose wore piracy and RRD. At this moment we have developers worried about sell&#8217;s, I don&#8217;t know how are things in on the US, but here in Portugal 8 out of 10 are changed. </p>
<p>PS. WOW ROCKS&#8230; I&#8217;M AN ADDICT, and you&#8217;r right It&#8217;s crack.</p>
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		<title>By: Torrence Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torrence Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@samok - 

&quot;PS3 will lead in total sales and he can mark my words, simply because the Playstation Brand is more popular than the 360 worldwide.&quot;

Marked.  You still haven&#039;t proved that I&#039;m a fanboy.  Please post the date when PS3 will pass 360 in worldwide sales so I&#039;ll know when to come back to this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@samok &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8220;PS3 will lead in total sales and he can mark my words, simply because the Playstation Brand is more popular than the 360 worldwide.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marked.  You still haven&#8217;t proved that I&#8217;m a fanboy.  Please post the date when PS3 will pass 360 in worldwide sales so I&#8217;ll know when to come back to this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: METtAL-GAMER</title>
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		<dc:creator>METtAL-GAMER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So your saying that the ps3 will win the console war just because of it&#039;s brand name?

That&#039;s your reason?Really?

I sure hope you know that it takes more than a brand name to win a console war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So your saying that the ps3 will win the console war just because of it&#8217;s brand name?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s your reason?Really?</p>
<p>I sure hope you know that it takes more than a brand name to win a console war.</p>
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		<title>By: samok</title>
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		<dc:creator>samok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justify my purchase ? Is here the wrong term, money is no problem for me. I have a pretty high end PC, a Wii, a PS3 and a DS. I dont need a 360, because it has nothing to offer. I can play most of the 360 exclusives on my PC with far better visuals. 

I dont worry...why should i worry? Gaming is my hobby and not consoles or devices, but i have just no need for a 360, might change my opinion with Star Ocean 4 maybe.

I am only saying that Torrence is wrong, because in the end the PS3 will lead in total sales and he can mark my words, simply because the Playstation Brand is more popular than the 360 worldwide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justify my purchase ? Is here the wrong term, money is no problem for me. I have a pretty high end PC, a Wii, a PS3 and a DS. I dont need a 360, because it has nothing to offer. I can play most of the 360 exclusives on my PC with far better visuals. </p>
<p>I dont worry&#8230;why should i worry? Gaming is my hobby and not consoles or devices, but i have just no need for a 360, might change my opinion with Star Ocean 4 maybe.</p>
<p>I am only saying that Torrence is wrong, because in the end the PS3 will lead in total sales and he can mark my words, simply because the Playstation Brand is more popular than the 360 worldwide.</p>
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		<title>By: METtAL-GAMER</title>
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		<dc:creator>METtAL-GAMER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ps2 is where it&#039;s at because it had NO competition.The ps3 may or may not outsell the 360 in the end.You really need to stop depending on sales figures so much.why do you need to justify your purchase with sales numbers anyway?As long as both consoles are doing good then I don&#039;t really care who wins in the end, as long as both consoles are fairly close to each other in sales.Just like I don&#039;t judge a game based on sales.Stop worrying so much samok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ps2 is where it&#8217;s at because it had NO competition.The ps3 may or may not outsell the 360 in the end.You really need to stop depending on sales figures so much.why do you need to justify your purchase with sales numbers anyway?As long as both consoles are doing good then I don&#8217;t really care who wins in the end, as long as both consoles are fairly close to each other in sales.Just like I don&#8217;t judge a game based on sales.Stop worrying so much samok.</p>
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		<title>By: samok</title>
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		<dc:creator>samok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PS3 will outsell the 360 in the end. The worldwide interest is higher for Playstation products. 

Take for example Japan and Europe.

The 360 is non existent in Japan and now imagine what will happen, when FF and WKC will be released on the PS3 in Japan. These games are exclusives for the PS3 there. 

And now Europe, the PS3 has outsold the 360 now even at this high price. Imagine what will happen after the price cut. 

You are only considering the US, sure, they did always to think different, but dont forget that the PS3 outsold the 360 for some months at this high price, even in US and now imagine a price cut.

I think you are forgetting what kind of value the Playstation Brand has towards the customers. 

120 mio PS2 user...most of them are waiting for a price cut to buy a PS3.

The PS3 is a better package in the end than the 360. It is built future proof and does deliver you high class exclusives and a BluRay player.

Like i said, mark my words...the PS3 will sell more units in the end. Today the 360 has only sold 7 mio copies more worldwide, now imagine what will happen with games like FF and Gran Turismo, take only Europe and Japan. 7 mio are nothing. And dont forget that the 360 has a year head start and is much more cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PS3 will outsell the 360 in the end. The worldwide interest is higher for Playstation products. </p>
<p>Take for example Japan and Europe.</p>
<p>The 360 is non existent in Japan and now imagine what will happen, when FF and WKC will be released on the PS3 in Japan. These games are exclusives for the PS3 there. </p>
<p>And now Europe, the PS3 has outsold the 360 now even at this high price. Imagine what will happen after the price cut. </p>
<p>You are only considering the US, sure, they did always to think different, but dont forget that the PS3 outsold the 360 for some months at this high price, even in US and now imagine a price cut.</p>
<p>I think you are forgetting what kind of value the Playstation Brand has towards the customers. </p>
<p>120 mio PS2 user&#8230;most of them are waiting for a price cut to buy a PS3.</p>
<p>The PS3 is a better package in the end than the 360. It is built future proof and does deliver you high class exclusives and a BluRay player.</p>
<p>Like i said, mark my words&#8230;the PS3 will sell more units in the end. Today the 360 has only sold 7 mio copies more worldwide, now imagine what will happen with games like FF and Gran Turismo, take only Europe and Japan. 7 mio are nothing. And dont forget that the 360 has a year head start and is much more cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: METtAL-GAMER</title>
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		<dc:creator>METtAL-GAMER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know but I don&#039;t spend much time worrying about the console war.I&#039;m not like

&quot;oh no what will happen if the ps3 doesn&#039;t beat 360, OH NO IF IT HAPPENS MY LIFE IS DOOMED&quot;

What could happen though is that after the ps3 exclusives come out and people are like &quot;oh shit&quot; and there is a price drop people might go crazy over the ps3 especially if Microsoft is serious about having mostly casual titles in 2009 because from what Sony showed, everything looks AAA.I don&#039;t really like predicting who is going to win the console war though.I try to be as even as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know but I don&#8217;t spend much time worrying about the console war.I&#8217;m not like</p>
<p>&#8220;oh no what will happen if the ps3 doesn&#8217;t beat 360, OH NO IF IT HAPPENS MY LIFE IS DOOMED&#8221;</p>
<p>What could happen though is that after the ps3 exclusives come out and people are like &#8220;oh shit&#8221; and there is a price drop people might go crazy over the ps3 especially if Microsoft is serious about having mostly casual titles in 2009 because from what Sony showed, everything looks AAA.I don&#8217;t really like predicting who is going to win the console war though.I try to be as even as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Torrence Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torrence Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, nobody knows but Samok.  He thinks in 2010 that the PS3 will surpass the 360.  He should be working for Wedbush and Morgan.  I don&#039;t know what&#039;s going to happen but looking at the numbers I find it hard to believe that Microsoft is just going to stop selling consoles.  So with the 360 selling every month, how is the PS3 going to pass them in worldwide sales by 2010?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, nobody knows but Samok.  He thinks in 2010 that the PS3 will surpass the 360.  He should be working for Wedbush and Morgan.  I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going to happen but looking at the numbers I find it hard to believe that Microsoft is just going to stop selling consoles.  So with the 360 selling every month, how is the PS3 going to pass them in worldwide sales by 2010?</p>
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		<title>By: METtAL-GAMER</title>
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		<dc:creator>METtAL-GAMER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@torrence

Why so quick to judge sony?They may or may not outsell 360 by 2010.Nobody can say.There isn&#039;t a large enough gap in sales yet.Sony may stick with their sale the way they are now or they may turn into wii sales after killzone or god of war hits.Nobody knows.I hope by the end of this generation the ps3 and 360 only have 1 million gap between each other.That will be a tough console war and one to remember.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@torrence</p>
<p>Why so quick to judge sony?They may or may not outsell 360 by 2010.Nobody can say.There isn&#8217;t a large enough gap in sales yet.Sony may stick with their sale the way they are now or they may turn into wii sales after killzone or god of war hits.Nobody knows.I hope by the end of this generation the ps3 and 360 only have 1 million gap between each other.That will be a tough console war and one to remember.</p>
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		<title>By: Torrence Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torrence Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@samok - 

&quot;it seems that you need to grow some years to become more mature and to learn how to talk with other people. First of all, i am not interested in owning you or whatever you call this kindergarten crap.&quot;

I&#039;m a grown man and I&#039;ll post however I want on my site.  Don&#039;t lecture me.  You don&#039;t know where I&#039;ve been or what I&#039;ve done.  You don&#039;t even understand the lingo.  I said I would own you.  What is this &#039;own like property&#039; metaphor mean? In this case it means to put you in your place.  It seems that you are the one stuck in kindergarten because you don&#039;t understand me and have yet to prove that I&#039;m a fanboy.

&quot;How can someone claim that BluRay is not needed for gaming ? BluRay is needed, like DVD was needed some years ago. BluRay delivers you the oppurtunity to cut costs and this means a great benefit and will lead to better visuals. Carmack might be quoted here.&quot;

Blu-Ray isn&#039;t needed for gaming at this point.  I&#039;ve already proved it.  For every Blu-Ray that you can put high quality textures on, you can do the same with DVD, even if it means adding a second disc.  We won&#039;t need Blu-Ray until the next generation.  Right now several PS3 games could have shipped on DVD.  Carmack also stated that the problem could be fixed by adding a 3rd DVD.  BTW, If BR is needed this gen, why doesn&#039;t the 360 have a BR player?  What about the 2million in one month selling Wii?  Does it need a BR drive too?  Seems like you are a shallow rgz with no logic in your thinking.

&quot;And btw. Its not called Soccerâ€¦its called Football.

Football was invented earlier than American Football, because as you know we Europeans do have an older cultureâ€¦&quot;

In America the game with the dalmation ball is called soccer.  I&#039;m not going to start calling it football when we have another game called football.  

&quot;The next part is, why i do call you an xbot, because its obvious. You are bashing the Ps3 every second.
How can someone claim that the PS3 will not sell more than the 360 after a price cut. Do you even realize how big the worldwide interest is in this product. Sony did succeed for two generations, the customers are used to get quality products and they know what Sony will deliver.&quot;

That explanation doesn&#039;t prove anything.  What have I said to BASH the PS3?  So if I said that the 360 wouldn&#039;t sell as much as the Wii with a lower price cut would I be a Wii fanboy?  Still no proof from you.  Your logic is flawed as it should be...you&#039;re a rgz.

&quot;The PS3 will surpass the 360 in total sales after two years. Mark my words.
The worldwide interest and the better exclusives will prove this point soon.&quot;

Yeah so people are just gonna stop buying the 360 and in 2010 the PS3 will pass 360 in total sales.  Your funny.  First you disrespect me and then my fellow Americans. You still haven&#039;t proven that I&#039;m an Xbot and the last thing you can say is that the PS3 is going to pass the 360 during the year we make contact.  Send me some of that European weed you are smoking man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@samok &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8220;it seems that you need to grow some years to become more mature and to learn how to talk with other people. First of all, i am not interested in owning you or whatever you call this kindergarten crap.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a grown man and I&#8217;ll post however I want on my site.  Don&#8217;t lecture me.  You don&#8217;t know where I&#8217;ve been or what I&#8217;ve done.  You don&#8217;t even understand the lingo.  I said I would own you.  What is this &#8216;own like property&#8217; metaphor mean? In this case it means to put you in your place.  It seems that you are the one stuck in kindergarten because you don&#8217;t understand me and have yet to prove that I&#8217;m a fanboy.</p>
<p>&#8220;How can someone claim that BluRay is not needed for gaming ? BluRay is needed, like DVD was needed some years ago. BluRay delivers you the oppurtunity to cut costs and this means a great benefit and will lead to better visuals. Carmack might be quoted here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Blu-Ray isn&#8217;t needed for gaming at this point.  I&#8217;ve already proved it.  For every Blu-Ray that you can put high quality textures on, you can do the same with DVD, even if it means adding a second disc.  We won&#8217;t need Blu-Ray until the next generation.  Right now several PS3 games could have shipped on DVD.  Carmack also stated that the problem could be fixed by adding a 3rd DVD.  BTW, If BR is needed this gen, why doesn&#8217;t the 360 have a BR player?  What about the 2million in one month selling Wii?  Does it need a BR drive too?  Seems like you are a shallow rgz with no logic in your thinking.</p>
<p>&#8220;And btw. Its not called Soccerâ€¦its called Football.</p>
<p>Football was invented earlier than American Football, because as you know we Europeans do have an older cultureâ€¦&#8221;</p>
<p>In America the game with the dalmation ball is called soccer.  I&#8217;m not going to start calling it football when we have another game called football.  </p>
<p>&#8220;The next part is, why i do call you an xbot, because its obvious. You are bashing the Ps3 every second.<br />
How can someone claim that the PS3 will not sell more than the 360 after a price cut. Do you even realize how big the worldwide interest is in this product. Sony did succeed for two generations, the customers are used to get quality products and they know what Sony will deliver.&#8221;</p>
<p>That explanation doesn&#8217;t prove anything.  What have I said to BASH the PS3?  So if I said that the 360 wouldn&#8217;t sell as much as the Wii with a lower price cut would I be a Wii fanboy?  Still no proof from you.  Your logic is flawed as it should be&#8230;you&#8217;re a rgz.</p>
<p>&#8220;The PS3 will surpass the 360 in total sales after two years. Mark my words.<br />
The worldwide interest and the better exclusives will prove this point soon.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah so people are just gonna stop buying the 360 and in 2010 the PS3 will pass 360 in total sales.  Your funny.  First you disrespect me and then my fellow Americans. You still haven&#8217;t proven that I&#8217;m an Xbot and the last thing you can say is that the PS3 is going to pass the 360 during the year we make contact.  Send me some of that European weed you are smoking man.</p>
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