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		<title>By: zer0man1</title>
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		<dc:creator>zer0man1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think the Wii was made for hardcore gamers. I mean they have Wiis in nursing homes. Nintendo markets the Wii to non-gamers as well as gamers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think the Wii was made for hardcore gamers. I mean they have Wiis in nursing homes. Nintendo markets the Wii to non-gamers as well as gamers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kratos7445</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kratos7445</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bullywithafully

it doesn&#039;t really matter what will happens but you have your future of gaming and i have mine, but if the 1 console future isn&#039;t for quite a while then get used to fanboys because this is only the start.if things don&#039;t change i will hate to see the console wars in the next 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bullywithafully</p>
<p>it doesn&#8217;t really matter what will happens but you have your future of gaming and i have mine, but if the 1 console future isn&#8217;t for quite a while then get used to fanboys because this is only the start.if things don&#8217;t change i will hate to see the console wars in the next 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullywithafully01</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bullywithafully01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like i said it wont ever happen its too much money to be made in the industry for that the happen. like i said before this would only benefit the developers and not the console makers. No way in hell will microsoft and nintendo stand by and let sony make the console while they only reap the benefits of online and add ons, then on top of that we as consumers wouldnt be saving money because they would just nickel and dime us to death on everything.  I see consoles in the future with out disk drives and  add huge hard drives and every thing is digitally  distributed. This is the future that i see happening esp with movies, muso, and games and programs being distributed on line as of lately and the new envirorment friendly movement going on this is the more likely reality. Plus they have already tried the one console thing twice a  and more. Consoles wont hit that 1000, mark for a long while if it ever does get like that. Sony made the mistake of bringing a console at a high price point and now they are reaping the consequences of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like i said it wont ever happen its too much money to be made in the industry for that the happen. like i said before this would only benefit the developers and not the console makers. No way in hell will microsoft and nintendo stand by and let sony make the console while they only reap the benefits of online and add ons, then on top of that we as consumers wouldnt be saving money because they would just nickel and dime us to death on everything.  I see consoles in the future with out disk drives and  add huge hard drives and every thing is digitally  distributed. This is the future that i see happening esp with movies, muso, and games and programs being distributed on line as of lately and the new envirorment friendly movement going on this is the more likely reality. Plus they have already tried the one console thing twice a  and more. Consoles wont hit that 1000, mark for a long while if it ever does get like that. Sony made the mistake of bringing a console at a high price point and now they are reaping the consequences of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kratos7445</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kratos7445</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bullywithafully

ya i know we need a fanboy free future but that won&#039;t ever happen.but here is how the 1 console might work.it takes billions of dollars to make a console and they won&#039;t lose as much money to sell the console with no competition and Sony makes the system, Microsoft makes the online and Nintendo does the add-ons and watever else they want to do and the profit splits 3 ways but i know they won&#039;t want to share it so heres another alternative.universal studios gathers up all the developers for Sega, Bungi, epic etc... and pay them to have all their games exclusive to that platform and then all sony, microsoft and nintendo have is their exclusives and they will be forced to combine with universal.it might take a lot of money though.anyway if it works then each company can start developing their own games and still make a profit.it may or may not work, but just think about if u could only get the dark night on blu ray and could only get iron man on hd dvd.it would be the same as the console war.it may not happen now but i believe it will happen sometime in the near future with consoles how expensive they are now and how each generation the price keeps getting higher.do u really want to pay 1000.00 for a console?that&#039;s when i think there will be 1 system.the cost will be too high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bullywithafully</p>
<p>ya i know we need a fanboy free future but that won&#8217;t ever happen.but here is how the 1 console might work.it takes billions of dollars to make a console and they won&#8217;t lose as much money to sell the console with no competition and Sony makes the system, Microsoft makes the online and Nintendo does the add-ons and watever else they want to do and the profit splits 3 ways but i know they won&#8217;t want to share it so heres another alternative.universal studios gathers up all the developers for Sega, Bungi, epic etc&#8230; and pay them to have all their games exclusive to that platform and then all sony, microsoft and nintendo have is their exclusives and they will be forced to combine with universal.it might take a lot of money though.anyway if it works then each company can start developing their own games and still make a profit.it may or may not work, but just think about if u could only get the dark night on blu ray and could only get iron man on hd dvd.it would be the same as the console war.it may not happen now but i believe it will happen sometime in the near future with consoles how expensive they are now and how each generation the price keeps getting higher.do u really want to pay 1000.00 for a console?that&#8217;s when i think there will be 1 system.the cost will be too high.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullywithafully01</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bullywithafully01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kratos  hear is how your theory wont work. Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony arent going to just give up the money they make now for a one console future. Then who is going to make that one console? Then that console maker has a monopoly and gets all the profit from that one console. Yea its a nice idea from a developers standpoint cause it means they have to do less work but its not going to happen not as long as the industry is making billions of dollars the way it is. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo will never agree on sharing profits from one console so them making it together would be out of the question too. If those companies got along like that then you would see 360 with a blueray player. We don&#039;t need a one console future we need a dipshit fanboy free future, in order to be like it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kratos  hear is how your theory wont work. Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony arent going to just give up the money they make now for a one console future. Then who is going to make that one console? Then that console maker has a monopoly and gets all the profit from that one console. Yea its a nice idea from a developers standpoint cause it means they have to do less work but its not going to happen not as long as the industry is making billions of dollars the way it is. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo will never agree on sharing profits from one console so them making it together would be out of the question too. If those companies got along like that then you would see 360 with a blueray player. We don&#8217;t need a one console future we need a dipshit fanboy free future, in order to be like it was.</p>
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		<title>By: Kratos7445</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kratos7445</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@HIPHOPGAMER

I FORGOT TO TOUCH ON WHEN U SAID U DON&#039;T THINK THINGS WILL EVER BE AS THEY WERE IN THE SEAG AND NINTENDO DAYS.IM AFRAID I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH U ON THAT ONE AND HERE ARE MY REASONS WHY.

IM 95% SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE A 1 CONSOLE FUTURE AND HERES WHY AND HOW IT WILL HELP.

1-IT IS COSTING TO MUCH MONEY TO MAKE GAMES AND HAVE TO PORT THEM OVER TO MAKE A PROFIT.IF THEY HAD ONLY 1 SYSTEM THEY WOULD HAVE A CHANCE AT TRIPLE THE MONEY BECAUSE INSTEAD OF 3 SYSTEMS THERE IS ONLY 1.IT WOULD THEN BE ALOT EASIER TO SELL 5-10 MILLION COPIES.MOST PEOPLE ARE 1 CONSOLE OWNERS RIGHT NOW SO IT&#039;S ALOT HARDER TO DO THAT.

2-WITH ONLY 1 SYSTEM ON THE MARKET THE COMPANY WOULDN&#039;T LOOS AS MUCH MONEY FOR THEIR SYSTEM BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN ONLY BUY 1 SYSTEM.JUST LOOK AT A VCR OR A DVD PLAYER.DO U REALLY THINK THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE AS MANY BLOCKBUSTER MOVIES IF THEIR WERE TO KINDS OF DVD PLAYERS.PEOPLE WOULD SAY THIS ONE HAS RAMBO SO I WAN&#039;T THIS AND JUST IGNORE THE OTHER ONE EVEN THOUGH THE OTHER ONE HAS MOVIES LIKE TERMINATER.I THINK THE CONSOLE WAR WILL TURN OUT LIKE VCR AND DVD PLARS DID.ONLY 1.

3-IT WORKS OUT FOR EVERYONE.DEVELOPERS MAKE MORE MONEY SO THEY DON&#039;T HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.

SONY, MICROSOFT AND NINTENDO DON&#039;T LOSE AS MUCH MONEY WHEN TRYING TO SELL THE SYSTEM.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, NO MORE FANBOYS AND DEVELOPER WARS WILL START AND DEVELOPERS WILL BE PRESSURED TO MAKE A BETTER GAME SO INSTEAD OF A CONSOLE WAR IT TURNS INTO A DEVELOPER WAR.

SOUNDS LIKE SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS DOESN&#039;T IT?HAPPY EVER AFTER?

THE REAL COMPETITION BEGINS.

LET ME KNOW WHAT U THINK HIPHOPGAMER OR ANYONE ELSE.</description>
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<p>I FORGOT TO TOUCH ON WHEN U SAID U DON&#8217;T THINK THINGS WILL EVER BE AS THEY WERE IN THE SEAG AND NINTENDO DAYS.IM AFRAID I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH U ON THAT ONE AND HERE ARE MY REASONS WHY.</p>
<p>IM 95% SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE A 1 CONSOLE FUTURE AND HERES WHY AND HOW IT WILL HELP.</p>
<p>1-IT IS COSTING TO MUCH MONEY TO MAKE GAMES AND HAVE TO PORT THEM OVER TO MAKE A PROFIT.IF THEY HAD ONLY 1 SYSTEM THEY WOULD HAVE A CHANCE AT TRIPLE THE MONEY BECAUSE INSTEAD OF 3 SYSTEMS THERE IS ONLY 1.IT WOULD THEN BE ALOT EASIER TO SELL 5-10 MILLION COPIES.MOST PEOPLE ARE 1 CONSOLE OWNERS RIGHT NOW SO IT&#8217;S ALOT HARDER TO DO THAT.</p>
<p>2-WITH ONLY 1 SYSTEM ON THE MARKET THE COMPANY WOULDN&#8217;T LOOS AS MUCH MONEY FOR THEIR SYSTEM BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN ONLY BUY 1 SYSTEM.JUST LOOK AT A VCR OR A DVD PLAYER.DO U REALLY THINK THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE AS MANY BLOCKBUSTER MOVIES IF THEIR WERE TO KINDS OF DVD PLAYERS.PEOPLE WOULD SAY THIS ONE HAS RAMBO SO I WAN&#8217;T THIS AND JUST IGNORE THE OTHER ONE EVEN THOUGH THE OTHER ONE HAS MOVIES LIKE TERMINATER.I THINK THE CONSOLE WAR WILL TURN OUT LIKE VCR AND DVD PLARS DID.ONLY 1.</p>
<p>3-IT WORKS OUT FOR EVERYONE.DEVELOPERS MAKE MORE MONEY SO THEY DON&#8217;T HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.</p>
<p>SONY, MICROSOFT AND NINTENDO DON&#8217;T LOSE AS MUCH MONEY WHEN TRYING TO SELL THE SYSTEM.<br />
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, NO MORE FANBOYS AND DEVELOPER WARS WILL START AND DEVELOPERS WILL BE PRESSURED TO MAKE A BETTER GAME SO INSTEAD OF A CONSOLE WAR IT TURNS INTO A DEVELOPER WAR.</p>
<p>SOUNDS LIKE SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS DOESN&#8217;T IT?HAPPY EVER AFTER?</p>
<p>THE REAL COMPETITION BEGINS.</p>
<p>LET ME KNOW WHAT U THINK HIPHOPGAMER OR ANYONE ELSE.</p>
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		<title>By: LOCO209</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOCO209</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOOK   does it really matter who  wins   the console   war  ??
I believe as long as the gamers themselves   get the system they want ,and are happy with that system   Than that&#039;s all that matters...The console war is retarded,   gamers only lose out when major companies (corporations )go at it for dominance...
NOW  IF YOU WANT TO BE A TRUE GAMER   THAN
BE a fan of the GAME   not the system          NOW THAT&#039;S A TRUE gamer....  nuff SAID!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOOK   does it really matter who  wins   the console   war  ??<br />
I believe as long as the gamers themselves   get the system they want ,and are happy with that system   Than that&#8217;s all that matters&#8230;The console war is retarded,   gamers only lose out when major companies (corporations )go at it for dominance&#8230;<br />
NOW  IF YOU WANT TO BE A TRUE GAMER   THAN<br />
BE a fan of the GAME   not the system          NOW THAT&#8217;S A TRUE gamer&#8230;.  nuff SAID!</p>
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		<title>By: Malaguena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malaguena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The situation between Resistance 2 and Gears 2 is pretty interesting. Resistance 1 wasnt the type of game where people went &quot;Dude, I gotta get a PS3 for that game.&quot; It was awesome game but it didnt have the massive impact like Gears 1.

The thing now is that Resistance 2 is pulling all the stops. Insomniac not only polished the game like crazy but added insane amounts on new stuff. 60 player multi ALONE is enough to create excitement but then they push it up with the Cloverfield Chimera and the separate co-op..
All around the forums, I&#039;m hearing people people say that &quot;Dude, I gotta get a PS3 for THIS game&quot;. I dont think Resistance 2 will outsell Gears 2 but I do think Resistance 2 will move a lot more Ps3 than Gears 2 will move 360.

Basically what I&#039;m saying, everybody who wanted to play Gears already got a 360. Is gonna sell a lot but only moderately gonna boost the 360 sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The situation between Resistance 2 and Gears 2 is pretty interesting. Resistance 1 wasnt the type of game where people went &#8220;Dude, I gotta get a PS3 for that game.&#8221; It was awesome game but it didnt have the massive impact like Gears 1.</p>
<p>The thing now is that Resistance 2 is pulling all the stops. Insomniac not only polished the game like crazy but added insane amounts on new stuff. 60 player multi ALONE is enough to create excitement but then they push it up with the Cloverfield Chimera and the separate co-op..<br />
All around the forums, I&#8217;m hearing people people say that &#8220;Dude, I gotta get a PS3 for THIS game&#8221;. I dont think Resistance 2 will outsell Gears 2 but I do think Resistance 2 will move a lot more Ps3 than Gears 2 will move 360.</p>
<p>Basically what I&#8217;m saying, everybody who wanted to play Gears already got a 360. Is gonna sell a lot but only moderately gonna boost the 360 sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Kratos7445</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kratos7445</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that if nintendo keeps puttiing out games like madworld it will hurt them in the long run because parents won&#039;t look at nintendo as something they wan&#039;t their kids to play anymore, but it is nice to see they are actually putting out a hardcore game to stand out.i still think it won&#039;t sell that well though because the wii is not filled with that kind of audience.just look at what happened to manhunt 2.AT LEAST THEY FINALLY HAVE A NEW IP THOUGH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that if nintendo keeps puttiing out games like madworld it will hurt them in the long run because parents won&#8217;t look at nintendo as something they wan&#8217;t their kids to play anymore, but it is nice to see they are actually putting out a hardcore game to stand out.i still think it won&#8217;t sell that well though because the wii is not filled with that kind of audience.just look at what happened to manhunt 2.AT LEAST THEY FINALLY HAVE A NEW IP THOUGH.</p>
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		<title>By: GrimyGunz23</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrimyGunz23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great show as ususal. R2 vs Gears2 will be alot closer battle then the first go around. by the end of 2008 sales should be only 250k difference.

I would choose streets of rage when comparing thoes 2 games but if you put the first contra then it would have taken it In my opinion. I had very good memories with the first contra awell as streets of rage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great show as ususal. R2 vs Gears2 will be alot closer battle then the first go around. by the end of 2008 sales should be only 250k difference.</p>
<p>I would choose streets of rage when comparing thoes 2 games but if you put the first contra then it would have taken it In my opinion. I had very good memories with the first contra awell as streets of rage.</p>
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